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confused When will we wipe out all the cancer?

When will we wipe out all the cancer? Before the year 2020? If not, why not? Why is it taking so long?!? confused
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Re: When will we wipe out all the cancer?

Hello Henri Tapani Heinonen,

Is this a serious question?

We can't even wipe out most non-human parasites in the human body. The level of medical technology required to wipe out human cancer cells without killing off non-cancerous human cells is very daunting. But we improve each decade.

Lawrence

Added: How long do you guess it will take to develop a cure for toe nail fungus infections? It should be very easy to differentiate between fungus cells and human cells, so we should reach that medical level decades before we have a general cure for cancer.
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Re: When will we wipe out all the cancer?

Is this a serious question?


Yes, it is.

That is what we are trying to do here: To find treatments to cancer. Right? Why could not we succeed?
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Re: When will we wipe out all the cancer?

Added: How long do you guess it will take to develop a cure for toe nail fungus infections?


Not too long, because CPUs are getting faster and faster. Computer simulations are the key to solve all the problems. Right?
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Re: When will we wipe out all the cancer?

Computer simulations are the key to solve all the problems. Right?


So, we have had these distributed projects for several years by now. Have they already found something new?

What happened to the Smallpox project? Did they find the cure?
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Re: When will we wipe out all the cancer?

I agree. Computing (and applied physics and chemistry) will play a very important role in biotechnology advances. But we are very unlikely to leap to a cure in the near future. We have to master an enormously complicated field of knowledge. Biology is not simple. I seem to recall that a human cell will normally contain at least a quarter million ribosomes churning out proteins for various cellular structures. So we are trying to develop a map covering a city with a quarter million factories in it. We don't know how much detail we need to put on the map, but real understanding of our biology is going to be difficult.

We can hope to stumble over a magic bullet (a cure for cancer) before we complete the map, but we cannot expect to have such luck. On the other hand, if we do not start mapping the city, we can expect to have no luck at all.

Hoping for good luck, but not predicting it -
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Re: When will we wipe out all the cancer?

Not too long, because CPUs are getting faster and faster. Computer simulations are the key to solve all the problems. Right?


Sadly, no.

Smallpox was caused by a virus. Large scale immunisation made it possible to eradicate smallpox.

Cancer doesn't have a single cause. There is no possibility of a "cancer vaccine". Better treatments are the goal here.
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Re: When will we wipe out all the cancer?

There is no possibility of a "cancer vaccine".


There is indirectly for one type of cancer.

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/News/Releases/2007/10/26114714
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Re: When will we wipe out all the cancer?

There is no possibility of a "cancer vaccine".


There is indirectly for one type of cancer.

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/News/Releases/2007/10/26114714


If you have read the article completely (and understood it), you would have noticed that this vaccine does not prevent the cancer itself. I prevents (to some extent) an infection from the human papiloma virus. Now I do agree the formulation of the article does lead to confusion but the baseline is that this virus is not a cancer itself. Being infected with this virus however does boost your likelihood of developing cervical cancer later on in your life (probably due to longterm damage to those cell's genetic material).
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Re: When will we wipe out all the cancer?

There is no possibility of a "cancer vaccine".


There is indirectly for one type of cancer.

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/News/Releases/2007/10/26114714


If you have read the article completely (and understood it), you would have noticed that this vaccine does not prevent the cancer itself. I prevents (to some extent) an infection from the human papiloma virus. Now I do agree the formulation of the article does lead to confusion but the baseline is that this virus is not a cancer itself. Being infected with this virus however does boost your likelihood of developing cervical cancer later on in your life (probably due to longterm damage to those cell's genetic material).


If you had read my post (and understood it), you would have noticed that I said "indirectly".
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