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Sekerob
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I really disagree with you Sekerob once your coments don't got the real point of view of this discussion. By the way, the request was adressed to WCG ADM team, directly. My apologies, but can't be afordable for us (portuguese native speakers) just sawe wrong comparisons like yours. ****** We continue waiting for a WCG ADM TEAM answer our request**** ![]() **edited for intolerance**tkh ![]() You may disagree GIBA, but inflammatory wording is out of order, period. I clearly said I was not opining and providing the technical view.
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GIBA
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I really disagree with you Sekerob once your coments don't got the real point of view of this discussion. By the way, the request was adressed to WCG ADM team, directly. My apologies, but can't be afordable for us (portuguese native speakers) just sawe wrong comparisons like yours. *********** We continue waiting for a WCG ADM TEAM answer our request*** ![]() **edited for intolerance**tkh ![]() You may disagree GIBA, but inflammatory wording is out of order, period. I clearly said I was not opining and providing the technical view. LOL, ****Could be based in arguments from the real world of people that not join WCG, due language barriers or something like that. Statistics from WCG usage aren't the best way to evaluate if a language is important or not. Language translation reach is not a simple question of usage of WCG statistics by country users or power users that are already using this grid computing project and decides registered your countries in yours profiles. It is just to leverage this usage by people that not use due language barriers, and in this way are blind for this project once did not understand what happens, or simply what was wrote in English... Language translation is a kind of bet. All smart projects have a consistent plan to increase it year by year, project by project. And we (Portuguese speakers) are comfortable to request Portuguese as one language option to be implemented in near future, once we have consistents arguments to believe that will improve a lot new WCG users, period. ![]() **edited for intolerance**tkh
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Former Member
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I did a little research yesterday and I found that Portuguese is a significantly popular language in the world, so the request appears to be valid.
The challenge is that there are other languages in the world that are spoken by more people than is Portuguese, and those languages are also not yet supported on WCG, such as Russian and German. So we can either tackle the language issue by population, which seems to be the current approach, or we can tackle it by the most requested language. That could be Welsh as we flood the forums with numerous, pointed, inflammatory, demanding requests for immediate support of Welsh which will only serve to diminish your place in line for language translation as we push through out own personal agenda, to the detriment of others. AND WE WONT EVEN SHOUT WHEN WE DO IT |
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GIBA
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The challenge is that there are other languages in the world that are spoken by more people than is Portuguese, and those languages are also not yet supported on WCG, such as Russian and German. I disagree Astrolab, and I guess that you made some confusion. Your example using German language is very wrong, once there are half of people that spoken German compared with Portuguese. And even if we consider native languages speakers, that count much more than second languages ones, Russian native speakers will appear bellow portuguese too, and in total speakers will appear above. There are many sources to get this information as official, from serious researches intituitions, but you will need pay for it. But, there are free information from many sources too, like United Nations, CIA, Wikipedia, Google, etc. Just for example, take a look at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/xx.html#People ![]()
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Former Member
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Sorry, I quoted German when I should have said Russian, where there are far more Russian speakers than Portuguese, as you correctly posted with the link to Wiki.
So you can then choose to disagree, using the native speaker difference, but in the end its all about the number of people that WCG can communicate with; and that has to include the people who are multi-lingual in languages that WCG already supports. That includes people like Sekerob who is so fluently bilingual that he can be a CA, even though his first language is not English. You have made your request and it has been heard. Now you just have to wait and see, since no amount of additional posts are going to be anything but annoying. |
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Sekerob
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A previous post by Didactylos on top 10 who speaks what: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/printpost?post=136158
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GIBA
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A previous post by Didactylos on top 10 who speaks what: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/printpost?post=136158 Any data will be more consistent if the user provide the original source. We continue wait for a WCG ADM team post your official opinion here, and we continue believing that Portuguese would be part of near future implementatrion plan as one of importants TOP ranked languages in the world. And just to be more clear, we aren't requesting any privileges, preferences, special conditions or treatments. We just asking to evaluate the real world facts about languages. If WCG prefer use any correlation with more data, fine (but keep an eye at the correlation between languages by native speakears and numbers of internet/computer active users registered in each country, once appear be one of the best target public to recruit new users to WCG (this statistics are easy to get from serious researches instituitions, many commercial institutions have it too, like IBM probably). ![]()
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Former Member
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Hi GIBA,
I understand your point, and I'm convinced its been made.However I don't understand what you're after with an admin? What would it contribute if an admin posted something like "Portuguese language might be supported in the future"? (cause I doubt they'll be willing to state anything more definite) |
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....****. The subject has been noted, responded to ***
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GIBA
Ace Cruncher Joined: Apr 25, 2005 Post Count: 5374 Status: Offline |
LOL,
----------------------------------------my posts was transformed in "intolerants" and this thread become a joke, once some guy was reached since pick the rat and probably are using it. Fantastic. Just cut it, once none here have freedom to write anything. Incredible the kind of lack of care that sometimes I saw here. Most of time saw reactive posts, most of time destructives ones, most of time against innovations and criativities and evolutions, most of time just need be what the guys means, not what the users suggest or request. Did you consider that in this way, you dont will need more the forums ? That's ok. I got your point. I give up and will not waste more my time. You have the powership to transform this forums in a real tool to improve WCG, and don't do it NEVER ! From today on I don't expect anything from you. Doesn't matter anyway. ![]()
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