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Links to German World Community Grid Viki on World Community Grid Website?

Hello,
I accept the decision, that there will not be a German translation of the World Community Grid help because it changes too often.

I wonder, however, whether there could be a link to the Vikis which contain non official translations of the world Community Grid Help.

This link would function like this:

The user should be able to choose German (Deutsch) as a language on theWorld Community Grid Website.

If he does so, the the following sentence should be displayed:

"Unfortunately, there is no German translation of our website. However, you can find a non-official translation of our site in the German World Community Grid Viki, which can be found here http://de.wcg.wikia.com/wiki/Deutsches_World_Community_Grid_Wiki"

In German this would be:
"Leider gibt es keine Deutsche Überstzung unserer Webseite. Sie können aber eine inoffizielle Übersetzung im Deutschen World Community Grid Viki finden. Das Viki findet befindet sich hier: http://de.wcg.wikia.com/wiki/Deutsches_World_Community_Grid_Wiki".

I think, that the volunteers work, who created and translated the Viki should be
uesed as much as possible. If there is no direkt link to the viki, only little people find it.

Please consider my proposal.

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Martin Schnellinger
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Re: Links to German World Community Grid Viki on World Community Grid Website?

Can we write Wiki in that text instead of Viki when writing inglese ;>)

With your proposal, those inofficial languages colored differently if possible, so the official ones stand out.

Just note that the foreign language character codes still get mangled. This can be overcome I think by previewing a post first.

Still, find a Germany based science project who's offering a WCG worthy project of reasonable duration and this might push the 'official' translated parts. The Wiki allows to expand much further, plus the updates can be ad hoc and communal. Hoping the Italian teams too will decide to contribute their work, which is currently pretty much only seen by a specific Italian Team's members.

Spread the word, and I think a great suggestion.
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Re: Links to German World Community Grid Viki on World Community Grid Website?

Hello Sekerob,
I am sorry, but my koloquial English is not too good.
That is why I do not really understand your answer.
Is there anything I should do to make my proposition reality?
In my opinion it is not really a komplikated thing I ask for.
What do you mean with spread the word?
Does this mean make the idea more commonly known?
If yes, how? What do you think?
I do not see much more to do than posting inthe forum.
Maybe a list of all existing WCG Wikis in different languages would be a good thing.
Such a list would make work for programmers, who put the links to the different Wikis on WCG webpage more easy.
But I do not know how to create such a list, sorry.
Thank you in advance for your answer.
Yours
Martin Schnellinger
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Re: Links to German World Community Grid Viki on World Community Grid Website?

Hello Sekerob,
I am sorry, but my kolloquial English is not too good.
That is why I do not really understand your answer.
Is there anything I should do to make my proposition reality?
In my opinion it is not really a komplicated thing I ask for.
What do you mean with spread the word?
Does this mean make the idea more commonly known?
If yes, how? What do you think?
I do not see much more to do than posting in the forum.
Maybe a list of all existing WCG Wikis in different languages would be a good thing.
Such a list would make work for programmers, who put the links to the different Wikis on WCG webpage more easy.
But I do not know how to create such a list, sorry.
Thank you in advance for your answer.
Yours
Martin Schnellinger

Okay, let me try less colloquial:
With your proposal, those unofficial languages colored differently if possible, so the official ones stand out.

Translation: I like your suggestion but if implemented suggest to somehow identify the official and none official translations using color coding.

Just note that the foreign language character codes still get mangled. This can be overcome I think by previewing a post first.

Translation: The foreign characters get distorted when posting on the WCG forums such as: Deutsche Überstzung unserer Webseite. Sie können
Still, find a Germany based science project who's offering a WCG worthy project of reasonable duration and this might push the 'official' translated parts. The Wiki allows to expand much further, plus the updates can be ad hoc and communal. Hoping the Italian teams too will decide to contribute their work, which is currently pretty much only seen by a specific Italian Team's members.

Translation: If there were a science project at WCG originating in Germany there is a bigger incentive for WCG to implement an official German translation. BUT, it will still be partial as any other official translations, so the wiki is The way to expand and do more pages.
Spread the word, and I think a great suggestion.

Translation: Tell as many as you can in whatever way possible. Ways are discussed in a number of threads in the Chat Room. Maybe more will help translate wiki pages, to include the many English FAQ's already in place. The rule though is depressing: 2% say they could. Of that 2% say they would. Of those 2% say they'll consider and of those latter, 2% actually do, which is pretty much you and me. Creating them is one thing, maintaining another. Quite a commitment, same as WCG is committed to keep the grid functioning for years to come.

I'll expand the Start Here FAQ in due course to point to the different translations. The Original WCG Wiki could also do with such an index page to begin by creating one in English pointing to the others. I see none presently, which makes finding the translations harder.

Unofficial languages listed is something the WCG webdeveloper would have to do, if amenable to the idea.
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Re: Links to German World Community Grid Viki on World Community Grid Website?

Hello Sekerob,
1. I know two German Projects, wchich could be qualified for World
Community Grid
Poem at home and
Spinhenge at home
But, please note, that those Projects are already working with BOINC,
but not under the guidance of World Community Grid.
2. To be honest, I do not unterstand your proposition with the colours.
As far as I know, there is no official German translation. As a
consequnce, I do not see the necessity of using any kind of different
colour at all.
Please read my proposition again. It is simple: The German (and other
languages) can be chosen on the WCG website, and if you choose it, you find a link to the
Wiki, where the German text is.

I understand, that my propostition can not be put into practice at once.
I know the procedures of IT: The programmers collect the whishes of the
users first, do not programm them at once, but oly then when the number
of whishes is big enough.

So, I do not expect you to fulfil my proposition at once.

But could you please assure me, that my proposition will be considered
in the next update of the WCG website.
Thank you in advance for your answer.
Yours Martin Schnellinger
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Re: Links to German World Community Grid Viki on World Community Grid Website?

Hello Martin.Schnellinger,
This is a very interesting idea. The problem is that any direct linkage from the WCG site might seem to imply approval of the wiki site by IBM, without actually giving IBM any authority. Responsibility without authority is a legal no-no. However, if a review of the wiki site shows that it is a useful resource, it might be possible to find a place to add a paragraph with a link to the wiki after carefully describing it as a non-IBM site maintained by volunteers and listing some of the resources available on it. I certainly would like to see that.

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Re: Links to German World Community Grid Viki on World Community Grid Website?

Hello everyone,
I think it is time to go on with this proposition.

Therefore I would like to ask, whether the necessary review of the German texts in the Viki is under way.
Thank you in advance for your answer and any help in context with the proposition.
Yours
Martin Schnellinger
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Re: Links to German World Community Grid Viki on World Community Grid Website?

Hello Martin,

old thread, but there are many Informations about WCG in German. One resource is our portal setigermany.de where you could read some short infos on the mainpage or the hole stuff in the wiki: http://www.setigermany.de/wiki/World_Community_Grid Because our team is the biggest German DC-Community you could get any Information in our Forum too ;)
And there are some other teams with Content in German about WCG. I think, there is no nead to got everything in German here too.

Beste Grüße
prote

PS: guck doch mal in den Bereich, wo sich die Teams vorstellen, auch dort gibt ein paar aktive deutschsprachige "Vertretungen" ;)
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Re: Links to German World Community Grid Viki on World Community Grid Website?

Hello Proteino,
thank you for lifting the thread up again.

But: But the point of this thread is not, that Information about WCG can be found somewhere else.

I knew this very well, when I created this thread.

The point is: Bring information in German directly on the Worldcommuitygrid Website, just as there are informations in Spanish and French.

There is no logical reason, why the user should not be able and have the right to choose German directly on wcg Website http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/

I did the trasnlation into German on the Viki not in the purpose to see it "hidden" on whatever little known website.

All the best to you and best wishes
Martin Schnellinger
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Re: Links to German World Community Grid Viki on World Community Grid Website?

Hi Martin!

Are you aware of the wiki at rechenkraft.net which provides information (although I must admit that we don't have published as much information about WCG as you have) about WCG as well as on other distributed computing projects? Maybe we should arrange things to avoid double efforts... ;)
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