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Everytime I come to Process for the Help Cure Muscular Dystrophy 2 Project ...

... the number of pending validations just skyrockets as if each volunteer on this project is wanting to corner the supply. Then, I have this association with a commodities market scene in Trading Places and hear this screaming in despair: Mortimer, it's wrong, it's all wrong... our portfolio is overloaded... empty those buffers, crunch crunch crunch crunch.

To ab-use the words of a French member who was/is upset about thumbnail charts: Ridiculous... (but, there really is work for years on the conveyor belt.) So, cut your cache please back to default (betting a dollar which I'm bound to loose, no one listening).

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Re: Everytime I come to Process for the Help Cure Muscular Dystrophy 2 Project ...

... the number of pending validations just skyrockets as if each volunteer on this project is wanting to corner the supply. Then, I have this association with a commodities market scene in Trading Places and hear this screaming in despair: Mortimer, it's wrong, it's all wrong... our portfolio is overloaded... empty those buffers, crunch crunch crunch crunch.

To ab-use the words of a French member who was/is upset about thumbnail charts: Ridiculous... (but, there really is work for years on the conveyor belt.) So, cut your cache please back to default (betting a dollar which I'm bound to loose, no one listening).

Sorry

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Sorry Sek, it must be me. I've got both my pc's (Guitar Man & Guitar Man 1) running on Muscular Dystrophy only. I'm not going to change it. cool

Can you please e-mail the dollar to me wink
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Re: Everytime I come to Process for the Help Cure Muscular Dystrophy 2 Project ...

GM, allow me to do the payment in kind through crunching electricity... just upped the laptop throttle from 80% to 90%... 2C hotter, but the next jobs will be done just a bit quicker smile
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Re: Everytime I come to Process for the Help Cure Muscular Dystrophy 2 Project ...

Sekerob, all my machines have a one day buffer which is not exceptional.
By the way I have stopped crunching HCMDP2 after reaching Sapphire but I remember when I started I got a fall in my Valid WU's and a shot in the number of PV WU's. But this was transitory. After a few days or so it was ok.
When I started with rice NRW it was not the same pattern, much less problems.
With HPFP2 it was horror at the beginning. A lot of errors all the time. An incredible number of PV WU's. I nearly quit. Then I decided to stay and the Valid and PV WU's quantities reached an acceptable pattern, but still with many errors.
Having crunched a piece of all active projects I can say that not one behaves like another. Due to quorum, or mirror WU issues, errors etc.
But my feeling is that there are less problems with projects that have WU's which finish in 2 or 3 hours then those that finish in 6, 7 or more hours.
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Re: Everytime I come to Process for the Help Cure Muscular Dystrophy 2 Project ...

the number of pending validations just skyrockets
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There are rockets and rockets. I am ready to bet that yours are fireworks rockets, at most. smile
Even with a very short work buffer I doubt that your PV/Daily ratio consistently exceeds 1. Exceptionally that can happen with the accordion effect induced by the mix of long and short WUs and the difficulty of estimating the work to do, but that should not be permanent.

To quote so many posts in this forum "Please be patient." wink
Jean.

PS: Regarding the mix of HCMD2 WUs it seems that distribution has been better balanced recently, i.e. much less series of parents followed by series of children and so on. I don't know if uplinger has changed something or if it is simply because batches begin to be less tough to compute?
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Re: Everytime I come to Process for the Help Cure Muscular Dystrophy 2 Project ...

French humor I guess PV/Daily Ratio, so if doing 50 a day, 50 are stuck in PV jail. Nope, my ratio is higher.

Out of the last 30 mostly parents, only one stopped at 6 hours, none reached 12 hours... lighter stuff as observed in the crunching chart thread.
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Re: Everytime I come to Process for the Help Cure Muscular Dystrophy 2 Project ...

I too have observed significant PV growth whenever I crunch HCMD.

Further, it seems to me that a disproportionate ratio of these WU's go to "no reply" and reissue after 10 days. I have often wondered what variable might cause this phenomena.
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Re: Everytime I come to Process for the Help Cure Muscular Dystrophy 2 Project ...

French humor I guess PV/Daily Ratio, so if doing 50 a day, 50 are stuck in PV jail. Nope, my ratio is higher.

No, I was serious. In the Linux playground, with a practical cache of about 0.7 day (cache at 1.0 and on_frac between 0.6 and 0.7) my PV is varying around that size and very few WUs are waiting more than one day.
In the Windows side my P4 is permanently crunching HCMD2 with a return delay of about 20 hours and there are only 2 PV jobs right now. I think it is usually a little higher, but not much, for an average 8 WUs a day.

I am switching the Windows profile of my quad back to HCMD2 to see if it is much different with a faster machine.

Cheers. Jean.
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Re: Everytime I come to Process for the Help Cure Muscular Dystrophy 2 Project ...

I find the the WU's that I have to process that are at PV waiting state, goes up and down. Usually I'm waiting for the other pairing of the unit to be completed and sent.

If I know that one of the WU is at PV state, then I will process that one before one that is not (as long as I'm well within the cut-off time).

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Re: Everytime I come to Process for the Help Cure Muscular Dystrophy 2 Project ...

Now here's a feature that could be incorporated into BOINC, if only crunching for WCG [with a buffer]. We know WCG can cause redundant jobs to abort, so why not set a flag for the client to fetch at each server contact, to signal that task xyz already has a matching wingman. Sort of an project internal round robin, pre-empting jobs that have not yet a match. The gain is a one time reduction on the server side of the PV pool, shortening maybe the Result Status pages and earlier completing batches, to reduce storage requirements (if they are still considered a premium issue). There'd be a bringing forward somewhat of credit award for the volunteers too. Of course, the smaller the caches, the less there'd be in PV and with the superior project stability it being only a question at client side: Do I need that biggish buffer?

(think my brain hurts already just by the thought of all the permutations needing adding to the schedulers)
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