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Former Member
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you guys would be mad at me then. i have a hexacore that spits 4.0ghz out at 125, and a 260. i'll be upgrading it soon to a fusion power edition mobo w/gtx 460 dual frozr.
----------------------------------------i have to say tho, the more performance you get per watt is genius. however... i must say that i'm very happy with my thuban. it might not be a 980x, but i built this computer for the price of that chip.. so go figure, and thats including the thuban, on the very first day it came to retail, 300 bones on newegg. a good investment i think? to me, its actually all about the psu. not matter how many tdp's your pushing, if your psu isn't gold, you're already in trouble. how many of you low wattage guys have a 90plus rated psu? i do, 650 watt earthwatts. i'm pretty sure n owadays tho it's probably rated closer to 85 or so, just by its age. if you get a build, i'm more th an happy to build it and take my kill a watt to it ;) by the way, if you need good prices, just send me a message :) i build computers all day, so its just part of my day :) i'm VERY interested to see where this goes (pressed the subscribe/follow button) oh yeah, my mips is 4000 Floating Point MIPS per core thats like 24000, so i think its pretty good.. sounds like i need lessons though.. any chance you can lay that build on us? [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Feb 13, 2011 6:47:35 AM] |
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My CPU's only ever know 100% flat out crunching ![]() They think it's normal after a while. It's good for them... better than warming up and cooling down all the time expanding and contracting their silicon substrates. Constantly nice and toasty is where it's at for reliability ![]() The GPU is a 9500 GT I couldn't buy a slower one. I might try the ATI 4350 this one has a 1/4 of the RAM of the Nvidia http://www.lasystems.be/Asus/EAH4350SILENTDI2...MD2LP/product/180945.html The goal is to be as efficient as possible. Slowest card, least RAM, passively cooled With the ATI I could get the AMD Overdrive Utility to do the underclocking as well ![]() It's the CPU that does the crunching may i ask a question of you? these numbers are in Fahrenheit, so please bear with them . (added Celsius) my thuban stays 77f(25C) when idle, and 95(35C) when full 100% on all six cores running aqua, collatz, wcg, whatever.. is this bad? i'd say it's never gone below 77(25c), or above 113(45C) ... are these numbers bad? should i make my processor hotter? i'm a bit confused. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Feb 13, 2011 6:58:02 AM] |
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David Autumns
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Hi Trilith
----------------------------------------Yes my PSU is this one http://www.plugloadsolutions.com/psu_reports/...OS%201463_750W_Report.pdf For details regarding the build see the first post in this thread The only change to the lean green machine is an update from the Phenom II 905E to the 1055T 95W edition overclocked to 2.99Ghz a core (now 6 of them) - the leaner greener number crunching machine ![]() As for your temperatures they seem ok but motherboard temperature measurements are notoriously inaccurate varying from manufacturer to manufacturer. They are best used to set a benchmark and used to spot when your heatsink is clogged up with dust. The temperatures are fine when your results make it to valid. If you spot a few errors it is time to break out the dyson. Get the correct spec heatsink. Apply the thinnest scrapings of Arctic Silver 5 and hoover it out once a blue moon and you will be OK. I have never damaged a CPU using it for what it is designed - number crunching. I suspect that as they stay nice and toasty and at a stable temperature they probably last longer that way than having their substrates expand and contract with the changing loads and power downs and bootups of those cpu not lucky enough to be involved in a grid project. But I am just biased ![]() by the way all those load readings are at the power socket so they include the losses (heat) in the psu Dave ![]() |
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Hypernova
Master Cruncher Audaces Fortuna Juvat ! Vaud - Switzerland Joined: Dec 16, 2008 Post Count: 1908 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
to me, its actually all about the psu. not matter how many tdp's your pushing, if your psu isn't gold, you're already in trouble. trilith, I think you ahave a point here for those who have many machines dedicated. 15% improvement on the PSU efficiency is only 60 Watts on a 400 Watts machine, You have those values or more if you use CPU and GPU crunching. But 10% improvement on 20 machines with 400 watts each you get 0.8 kW less power. This starts to count. And depending from where you start, if your PSU is not even Bronze, then you may have up to 20% efficiency improvement at that gives you -1.6 kW. I am now slowly changing my PSU's to Gold or Platinum standard which is not yet widely available. This means to get over 90% efficiency. When I started my rigs what was available in the power ratings I wanted was Bronze. Since I started crunching with GPU's I change to Gold as a minimum. One other positive effect is that the higher the efficiency, and the less waste heat is emitted from the PSU, which means you need less speed on the PSU cooling fan, which means less noise. All goodies. ![]() ![]() |
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Former Member
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Hi Trilith Yes my PSU is this one http://www.plugloadsolutions.com/psu_reports/...OS%201463_750W_Report.pdf For details regarding the build see the first post in this thread The only change to the lean green machine is an update from the Phenom II 905E to the 1055T 95W edition overclocked to 2.99Ghz a core (now 6 of them) - the leaner greener number crunching machine ![]() As for your temperatures they seem ok but motherboard temperature measurements are notoriously inaccurate varying from manufacturer to manufacturer. They are best used to set a benchmark and used to spot when your heatsink is clogged up with dust. The temperatures are fine when your results make it to valid. If you spot a few errors it is time to break out the dyson. Get the correct spec heatsink. Apply the thinnest scrapings of Arctic Silver 5 and hoover it out once a blue moon and you will be OK. I have never damaged a CPU using it for what it is designed - number crunching. I suspect that as they stay nice and toasty and at a stable temperature they probably last longer that way than having their substrates expand and contract with the changing loads and power downs and bootups of those cpu not lucky enough to be involved in a grid project. But I am just biased ![]() by the way all those load readings are at the power socket so they include the losses (heat) in the psu Dave i use tuniq tx-1 performance gel: i live by it. i see an instant temperature increase to 95F, and then it just stays there - all day ;) and yes, psu's ARE IT man, a good solid 90+ will totally rock your rig, and you'll save a lot of power in the process. :) |
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A Sandy Bridge system might be of interest here: According to my calculations it does 143 floating point MIPS/W (but see caveats below).
----------------------------------------This may be only semi-relevant at the moment, as Sandy Bridge isn't for sale anymore (not in my area, at least), but it looks promising for the near future. Efficiency is calculated from
System:
Caveats:
All told, the metrics for this system may not be directly comparable with the current benchmark, but I think it is quite competitive. It should be possible to improve efficiency even further with a few changes:
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David Autumns
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Nice one waitingForTheMiracle
----------------------------------------This is the the Intel Setup to beat ![]() (Sandy Bridge will be back there's nothing wrong with the CPU it's the supporting chipset and some potential SATA instability - so I hear) That's a whole load of crunching for not alot of watts You are right about the benchmark but even with turbo core switched off that's green number crunching Does the mobo have integrated graphics being Sandy Bridge? Loving the 22nm die shrink dig ![]() Dave AMD Autumns ![]() |
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David Autumns
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Talking of Intel have I missed something on the forums about Hyperthreading and BOINC?
----------------------------------------I converted my Atom powered HT netbook to Xubuntu and it's not receiving the hours it has put in (virtually) I ran a WU for 120+ hours (those Atoms are not fast) and received 88 hours in the stats. One of the projects only hands out 12 hours max however long it runs Apologies if this is covered elsewhere on the forum Dave ![]() |
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Does the mobo have integrated graphics being Sandy Bridge? Well, the CPU has integrated graphics. The mobos fall in two groups: Those based on the H67 chipset can use the integrated graphics but don't support over/underclocking. Those based on the P67 chipset (like mine) can do overclocking but can't use the integrated graphics.So that's another option for optimizing Sandy Bridge efficiency: A H67 motherboard would let you skip the discrete graphics, saving a few more watts (and some money, both on the graphics card and by not paying extra for a K model - i.e. overclockable - CPU). Good point ![]() By the time Sandy Bridge is back in the market, a third type of motherboard may be available: The Z68 chipset is supposed to support both integrated graphics and overclocking. On the HT question, I don't know of any particulars except that HT processors will overclaim on points (because the claim is based on treating virtual cores as real) and appear to give a bit less runtime - I'm averaging 7 days runtime per calendar day with 8 threads running 24/7. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Feb 16, 2011 10:35:16 AM] |
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kateiacy
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Talking of Intel have I missed something on the forums about Hyperthreading and BOINC? I converted my Atom powered HT netbook to Xubuntu and it's not receiving the hours it has put in (virtually) I ran a WU for 120+ hours (those Atoms are not fast) and received 88 hours in the stats. One of the projects only hands out 12 hours max however long it runs Dave When you installed BOINC after converting to Xubuntu, is there any chance that you forgot to change from the default 60% processor time to maximum output? That woud account for a difference between elapsed time and credited CPU time. ![]() |
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