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Large number of tasks queueing up and running

Hi. I have two machines running WCG. My XP (old) machine typically runs two tasks and has usually two queued up - as two finish, the other two begin and so on. I don't do anything to this and it has run itself admirably for some years now. My wife's machine (a third WCG outlet) also behaves itself quite well in the manner of my old XP.

My new Toshiba is a different matter. If I let it run itself, it can queue up to about 10 tasks and run them all at once, with the Toshiba fan going mental and the cpu all soaked up.

What I do is suspend 8 of the tasks and let two run, which calms the universe down somewhat. However, I then forget to go back and resume the next two. Then, when I've done all the queued up tasks, with nothing sitting in the pipeline beyond the two that are running, BOINC shoves in another 10 and I only find out when I hear the Toshiba's fan going crazy again.

This is not good for a long term satisfactory relationship.

Can someone tell me how to limit the number of tasks coming in to 2 and the number of tasks running at any one time to 2? In other words, 2 running and 2 waiting to start, which are then replaced by another 2 and so on. Fiddling with the CPU % doesn't have any effect on this issue that I can see.

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Re: Large number of tasks queueing up and running

Set your cache and contact the server to about 0.1 days....
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Re: Large number of tasks queueing up and running

How many cores or threads does the Toshiba have? Is it actually running all 10 units at once? If so, you can restrict the number of cores/threads in the BOINC manager so that you don't use them all. You can also restrict how much of the processor time gets used which also reduces the heat and therefore the fan wont go as crazy.

Edit: Are your older machines desktops and the newer on a laptop? Laptops don't circulate air as much and will run hotter. Also, each laptop vents a little different and may be why it strains more. I would suggest reducing the amount of processing time BOINC is allowed to keep from burning it up.
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Re: Large number of tasks queueing up and running

.......also restrict how much of the processor time gets used which also reduces the heat and therefore the fan wont go as crazy.



he also said -
Fiddling with the CPU % doesn't have any effect on this issue that I can see.

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Re: Large number of tasks queueing up and running

He also didn't say how much he fiddled... I know I gotta drop a couple of my laptops down to 60% in order to see a difference. Just a suggestion.
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Re: Large number of tasks queueing up and running

Well, It's a riddle how a Tosh runs 10 tasks at once, so suspect there's some serious confusion in play and likely the Activity Menu option "Run based on preferences" is not selected. Also suspect a Local versus Website device settings conflict, the usual "Clear those local prefs", most often removing half or all of the problem.

Anyway, let's start with a copy/paste of the start up message log, some 30 lines so we can see the effective settings, what I'm known to ask soon into a problem resolution Q&A :D

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Re: Large number of tasks queueing up and running

Hi again. I'm a bit more than a bit lost by the replies - out of my experience level I'm afraid.

Anyways, I have a screen shot of what it's trying to do now. I let the last two tasks finish, then "Resume" d the next remaining two and the list filled with another 11 making 13 in all. Not instantly but over a few minutes. Not all run immediately, some say "Waiting for memory" but they kind of flip-flop between starting and stopping.
I looked at the run on preferences thing and it has a dot next to it. However, clicking on it doesn't change it either on or off.

The Toshiba laptop I'm currently on has 8g of memory if that makes a difference (way more than my XP machine)

Do you guys want me to do anything? If you do, best keep it quite simple.
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Re: Large number of tasks queueing up and running

Open Boinc Manager (in advanced view). Click on the Messasges Tab. Select the first 30 lines, click copy and paste them in this thread.

You might just need to do this,
On the Boinc Manager drop down menue, click Advanced, Preferences, network usage, and change the additional work buffer (cache) to 0.5 days.

On the Processor Tab of the Advanced Preferences window, set the amount of processor to use to 99%

I would guess you are running other prjects as well as WCG (perhaps 4 WCG, 4 Free Hal, a WU Prop task and a GPU task)? If you post your first 30 line people here would know.
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Re: Large number of tasks queueing up and running

30/11/2010 9:27:33 PM Resuming computation
30/11/2010 9:32:48 PM World Community Grid Restarting task HFCC_L3_01051614_L3_0001_0 using hfcc version 611
30/11/2010 9:32:48 PM World Community Grid Starting c4cw_target02_064226596_0
30/11/2010 9:32:48 PM World Community Grid Starting task c4cw_target02_064226596_0 using c4cw version 613
30/11/2010 9:32:48 PM World Community Grid Starting c4cw_target02_064221271_0
30/11/2010 9:32:48 PM World Community Grid Starting task c4cw_target02_064221271_0 using c4cw version 613
30/11/2010 10:19:27 PM World Community Grid Restarting task HFCC_L3_01051614_L3_0001_0 using hfcc version 611
30/11/2010 10:19:27 PM World Community Grid Restarting task c4cw_target02_064226596_0 using c4cw version 613
30/11/2010 10:19:27 PM World Community Grid Restarting task c4cw_target02_064221271_0 using c4cw version 613
30/11/2010 10:23:05 PM World Community Grid Restarting task HFCC_L3_01051614_L3_0001_0 using hfcc version 611
30/11/2010 10:23:05 PM World Community Grid Restarting task c4cw_target02_064226596_0 using c4cw version 613
30/11/2010 10:23:05 PM World Community Grid Restarting task c4cw_target02_064221271_0 using c4cw version 613
30/11/2010 10:37:34 PM World Community Grid Restarting task HFCC_L3_01051614_L3_0001_0 using hfcc version 611
30/11/2010 10:37:34 PM World Community Grid Restarting task c4cw_target02_064226596_0 using c4cw version 613
30/11/2010 10:37:34 PM World Community Grid Restarting task c4cw_target02_064221271_0 using c4cw version 613
30/11/2010 11:11:20 PM World Community Grid task c4cw_target02_064224396_0 resumed by user
30/11/2010 11:11:20 PM World Community Grid task c4cw_target02_064224329_0 resumed by user
30/11/2010 11:11:20 PM World Community Grid task X0000107130365200903101346_0 resumed by user
30/11/2010 11:11:20 PM World Community Grid task HFCC_L3_01050396_L3_0000_0 resumed by user
30/11/2010 11:11:20 PM World Community Grid task ny465_00015_9 resumed by user
30/11/2010 11:11:20 PM World Community Grid task CMD2_1028-1HY0_B.clustersOccur-3BRW_B.clustersOccur_12_65154_65657_65559_65657_0 resumed by user
30/11/2010 11:11:20 PM World Community Grid Resuming task X0000107130365200903101346_0 using hcc1 version 608
30/11/2010 11:11:20 PM World Community Grid Resuming task ny465_00015_9 using hpf2 version 617
30/11/2010 11:11:20 PM World Community Grid Restarting task CMD2_1028-1HY0_B.clustersOccur-3BRW_B.clustersOccur_12_65154_65657_65559_65657_0 using hcmd2 version 614
30/11/2010 11:11:37 PM World Community Grid task faah17453_ZINC17327168_EN1md02420CTP_02_0 resumed by user
30/11/2010 11:13:11 PM World Community Grid Resuming task HFCC_L3_01050396_L3_0000_0 using hfcc version 611
30/11/2010 11:13:11 PM World Community Grid Restarting task CMD2_1028-1HY0_B.clustersOccur-3BRW_B.clustersOccur_12_65154_65657_65559_65657_0 using hcmd2 version 614
30/11/2010 11:13:21 PM World Community Grid Restarting task faah17453_ZINC17327168_EN1md02420CTP_02_0 using faah version 607
30/11/2010 11:13:21 PM World Community Grid Restarting task X0000107130341200903101345_0 using hcc1 version 608


There you go. I'm sure it makes perfect sense to you but it just goes zoom zoom zoom like a contrail over my head.
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Re: Large number of tasks queueing up and running

That does not look like the beginning....you have to scroll right to the top and it looks something like -


29/11/2010 07:35:03 Starting BOINC client version 6.10.58 for windows_intelx86
29/11/2010 07:35:03 log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
29/11/2010 07:35:03 Libraries: libcurl/7.19.7 OpenSSL/0.9.8l zlib/1.2.3
29/11/2010 07:35:03 Running as a daemon
29/11/2010 07:35:03 Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
29/11/2010 07:35:03 Running under account boinc_master
29/11/2010 07:35:03 Processor: 4 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.33GHz [Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 7]
29/11/2010 07:35:03 Processor: 2.00 MB cache
29/11/2010 07:35:03 Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 nx lm tm2 pbe
29/11/2010 07:35:03 OS: Microsoft Windows Vista: Home Premium x86 Edition, Service Pack 2, (06.00.6002.00)
29/11/2010 07:35:03 Memory: 3.00 GB physical, 6.19 GB virtual
29/11/2010 07:35:03 Disk: 455.69 GB total, 330.70 GB free
29/11/2010 07:35:03 Local time is UTC +0 hours
29/11/2010 07:35:03 No usable GPUs found
29/11/2010 07:35:04 World Community Grid URL http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/; Computer ID 827881; resource share 1000
29/11/2010 07:35:04 World Community Grid General prefs: from World Community Grid (last modified 20-Nov-2010 06:19:36)
29/11/2010 07:35:04 World Community Grid Computer location: home
29/11/2010 07:35:04 General prefs: using separate prefs for home
29/11/2010 07:35:04 Reading preferences override file
29/11/2010 07:35:04 Preferences:
29/11/2010 07:35:04 max memory usage when active: 3069.45MB
29/11/2010 07:35:04 max memory usage when idle: 3069.45MB
29/11/2010 07:35:05 max disk usage: 100.00GB
29/11/2010 07:35:05 (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager)
29/11/2010 07:35:06 Not using a proxy
29/11/2010 07:35:06 Suspending computation - initial delay
29/11/2010 07:37:04 World Community Grid Restarting task c4cw_target02_062128342_0 using c4cw version 613
29/11/2010 07:37:04 World Community Grid Restarting task c4cw_target02_062133724_0 using c4cw version 613
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