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Re: BOINC 7.0.40 warning

I will answer that with a smile on my face

9 per card.... excessive you think? it is all about keeping the separation between wu's
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Re: BOINC 7.0.40 warning

Hi,

now as the support for app-side "tweaking" is now included ( in some sense ) to the new boinc client side I wanted to try that :-)

Goal was run 2 simultanous hcc-task GPU-tasks so I made the following app_config.xml file and put that to wcg project folder:

<app_config>
<app>
<name>hcc1</name>
<max_concurrent>4</max_concurrent>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>.5</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>.5</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
</app_config>

BOINC version is the newest whicH I found

17/12/2012 09:38:58 | | Starting BOINC client version 7.0.42 for windows_intelx86

I have no app_info.xml:

17/12/2012 09:38:58 | | No config file found - using defaults

I have AMD four core processor

17/12/2012 09:38:58 | | Processor: 4 AuthenticAMD AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 920 Processor [Family 16 Model 4 Stepping 2]

GPU is AMD 6850

17/12/2012 09:38:58 | | CAL: ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 6800 series (Barts) (CAL version 1.4.1741, 1024MB, 991MB available, 2976 GFLOPS peak)

still it is running three cpu-tasks and only one GPU-task .. So what is wrongly configured ?
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Re: BOINC 7.0.40 warning

Three CPU jobs is correct, as no matter what, HCC-CPU requires a full CPU core... wont share it with a CPU core as the HCC-GPU jobs are not marked "low intensity" (only those that use 1 or 2 percent of a CPU are).

Now this is an experiment ... set <max_concurrent> to 5 and restart client. The max_concurrent makes maybe [most probably] no distinction between CPU and GPU. (Here we are going to learn something new, and maybe identify a bug/gap in the config for those who want to max out on GPU, but want to limit the CPU instances, e.g. run max 2 on CPU and 2 on GPU on a quad).
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Re: BOINC 7.0.40 warning

JEklund ,

Actually, put 0 in max_concurrent, meaning "no limit" (presently). The tag is really designed for when you want to run less than maximum of a science. The suspicion though remains, that the current design makes no difference for what runs with same <name> tag, on CPU or GPU, where the GPU tags specify how many are allowed on GPU as subset, at most.
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Re: BOINC 7.0.40 warning

FWIW I have found you can leave the max_current line completely out of the GPU part of the config file and let the gpu_usage line control the amount of GPU tasks running simultaneously. You'll need the max_current line to run a controlled amount of CPU tasks.

Here is my config file for running 2 GPU tasks and 2 SN2S tasks on my quad with HT.

<app_config>
<app>
<name>hcc1</name>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>1.0</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
<app>
<name>sn2s</name>
<max_concurrent>2</max_concurrent>
</app>
</app_config>
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Re: BOINC 7.0.40 warning

Still interested to learn from JEklund what happens with 5 in the max_concurrent. That would really reject or confirm, if the line adds up both resources or just works on CPU. His 4, and only 3 running on CPU and 1 on GPU suggests the both are summed.
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Re: BOINC 7.0.40 warning

Still interested to learn from JEklund what happens with 5 in the max_concurrent. That would really reject or confirm, if the line adds up both resources or just works on CPU. His 4, and only 3 running on CPU and 1 on GPU suggests the both are summed.

Maybe it's also OK to learn from CP ;)

<app_config>
<app>
<name>hcc1</name>
<max_concurrent>5</max_concurrent>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>.5</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>.5</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
</app_config>



leads to 3 running HCC CPU and 2 running HCC GPU-tasks.
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Still interested to learn from JEklund what happens with 5 in the max_concurrent.
BOINC is the creator of app_config. May we request them to shed some light on the ins-and-outs of app_config?
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Re: BOINC 7.0.40 warning

OK, in summary: You tested max 4, to proof that only 1 would run on the GPU, 3 on CPU, or 2 on GPU and 2 on CPU... at any rate, whatever the combo with <max_concurrent>4, where your resource with the GPU fractions specified would allow 5, by either setting <max_concurrent>5 or <max_concurrent>0 , latter no restriction.

Thanks for confirming, CP (To Doubting Tom, who likes it nailed hard, so the proposal in mind can further evolve for a suggestion to those that have cloud to accelerate changes :0)
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Maybe it's also OK to learn from CP ;)

CP:
What's your CPU's operating total-thread count?
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