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Re: Reduction in Points
Looking at my results status pages I have lots of very short length of time OET WU's, so that's why have an unusually high results for the day.
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Re: Reduction in Points
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LunchCrunch Report
Congratulations to the following UK team members on achieving a personal milestone in the lunchtime update: biggrin hugs

benski2011 moves above 400000 in the RunTime Rankings to #399,045
Mamajuanauk 500,000,000 Points
jacquiob moves above 60,000 in the Points Rankings to #59,955
ChrisUK moves above 9,000 in the Points Rankings to #9,000
benski2011 200 Results
benski2011 moves above 300000 in the Results Rankings to #293,048
Broad186 moves above 50000 in the Results Rankings to #49,503

					                    	Hours		
RunTime			        459.1	 crying 		        11,018		
7day Avg			450.0			        10,784		
June    			457.5	 sick 		        10,981		
May     			495.4			        11,901		
April   			512.4			        12,300		
								

 No. Of Members Active This Morning:								
					Total	        64	out of 	143
					Group 1    	37	,,  ,,	 38
					Group 2    	15	,,  ,,	 22
					Group 3    	10	,,  ,,	 26
					Group 4    	 2	,,  ,,	 10
					InAct New	 0	,,  ,,	  1
					InActive	 0	,,  ,,	 43
					Group 7    	 0	,,  ,,	  3

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Drus                 	Sapphire 	MCM1

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Re: Reduction in Points
Looking at my results status pages I have lots of very short length of time OET WU's, so that's why have an unusually high results for the day.

In turn this causes the abnormal drop in Points noted by Mamajuanauk

As SekeRob notes elsewhere:
Highly variable run times within the pool of results for a project cannot be controlled. This seriously upsets the underlying statistics methodology used to compute credit per second computed for devices. We just have to live with it.

It's a sloppy shoulders from both fronts, developers in Berkeley who will say the projects have to generate regular runtime tasks, the project owners who will say it's unrealistic... non-deterministic computations cannot be told to run regular times... a needle-haystack search also takes an unpredictable long or short time to find the object. biggrin

It's fixable, it requires a ground up redesign, but who's going to spend costly [salaried] time on something which you can't sell on Ebay, AND, since the data is not public and WCG/IBM would not allow anyone near in a million years, no public effort can be undertaken to research and fix the matter.


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Re: Reduction in Points
Looking at my results status pages I have lots of very short length of time OET WU's, so that's why have an unusually high results for the day.

In turn this causes the abnormal drop in Points noted by Mamajuanauk

As SekeRob notes elsewhere:
Highly variable run times within the pool of results for a project cannot be controlled. This seriously upsets the underlying statistics methodology used to compute credit per second computed for devices. We just have to live with it.

It's a sloppy shoulders from both fronts, developers in Berkeley who will say the projects have to generate regular runtime tasks, the project owners who will say it's unrealistic... non-deterministic computations cannot be told to run regular times... a needle-haystack search also takes an unpredictable long or short time to find the object. biggrin

It's fixable, it requires a ground up redesign, but who's going to spend costly [salaried] time on something which you can't sell on Ebay, AND, since the data is not public and WCG/IBM would not allow anyone near in a million years, no public effort can be undertaken to research and fix the matter.



I'm not sure that gives me any comfort. Looking at my run times for OET they do not vary wildly and average between 1.5 and 2 hours each. However the points generated do vary wildly and in this instance have more than halved for the same run time. As a result my reported work rate has dropped from some 110 Gflops down to near 100 Gflops. I guess that I have no option but to live with it or stop crunching OET and go back to a more normal project.
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Re: Reduction in Points
The overnight update should be interesting as the lunchtime update shows I've done almost as many points & results as all of yesterday!
06/05/2015  0:151:06:30:04  614,750  5,607 
06/04/2015  1:079:08:22:16  817,731  5,692

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Re: Reduction in Points
Totaly agree about OET, you get very little in return from them.
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Re: Reduction in Points
Good morning all
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Morning Update
Congratulations to the following UK team members on achieving a Personal Milestone in yesterday's crunching: biggrin hugs

Drus 3 years RunTime for the UK team
Tib_Big_D 90 days RunTime for the UK team
defscan passes 750,000 Points for the UK team
Broad186 passes 4,000 Results for the UK team
benski2011 passes 200 Results for the UK team
adjordan moves into the UK top 130 Results Rankings at #130
Broad186 moves into the UK top 100 Results Rankings at #99

Today marks:
1 years crunching for WCG for Darkmatter.NI

Congratulations also to the following UK team members on setting new PBs biggrin hugs 
	Mamajuanauk      	Runtime	          	Points	        	Results	12,241 	
	TomNuttall       	Runtime	          	Points	        	Results	   660	
	benski2011       	Runtime	 5:05:14:43	Points	  27,577	Results	    44	

Congratulations on New Badges at the last update:					
genhos               	Diamond 5	MCM1

UK team - Individual Ranking Movements 
					        	
	        RunTime		        Points		        Results	
tobiasmf    	up   1 to 	 91	         	   	   	   
tlpoppy1    	         	   	up   1 to 	155	up   2 to 	178
Tib_Big_D   	up   1 to 	296	         	   	   	   
scol5913    	up   1 to 	 54	         	   	up   1 to 	 29
rotasella ex	         	   	         	   	up   1 to 	164
reduk       	up   1 to 	 12	         	   	up   1 to 	 17
radagast_tb 	up   1 to 	347	         	   	up   3 to 	306
Patomlinson0	         	   	         	   	up   1 to 	299
nicollin    	up   3 to 	246	         	   	up   1 to 	173
neep!       	up   1 to 	269	         	   	   	   
KrisUK      	up   1 to 	 63	         	   	   	   
jacquiob    	up   3 to 	144	         	   	   	   
iamcornhooli	up   1 to 	244	up   1 to 	233	   	   
henrybellwoo	up   1 to 	440	         	   	up   2 to 	420
grangizmo   	         	   	         	   	up   1 to 	147
Gabrielseyi 	up   4 to 	372	up   2 to 	332	up   1 to 	350
ChrisUK     	         	   	         	   	up   1 to 	 27
Broad186    	         	   	         	   	up   3 to 	 99
BluePhloater	up   1 to 	370	         	   	   	   
benski2011  	up  21 to 	416	up  16 to 	278	up  18 to 	323
applai      	up   1 to 	270	up   1 to 	201	   	   
adjordan    	         	   	         	   	up   1 to 	130
TheCats     	dn   1 to 	 92	         	   	   	   
stroudwaterb	         	   	         	   	dn   1 to 	 18
John Hart   	         	   	         	   	dn   1 to 	101
CONNIE      	         	   	         	   	dn   1 to 	 30
Apis Tintinn	         	   	         	   	dn   1 to 	 28
Aillerrg    	         	   	         	   	dn   1 to 	100
adampyne555 	dn   1 to 	417

UK team Comparison of Daily RunTime, Points, Results 
			                          	Hours		Points		      Results	
Yesterday's Production	2:306:15:06:31	sad		24,879		4,254,717		18,464 	
Average per cd									
June     	         1055.3	sad		        25,320		3,859,618		11,993	
May     	         1087.5			        26,088		4,141,807		9,953	
April   	         1071.4			        25,704		4,137,229		10,119

Average Daily Crunching Comparison 
         	RunTime			Points		        	        Results		
         	06-Jun	05-Jun	  +/-	06-Jun	        05-Jun	        +/-	06-Jun	05-Jun	+/-
 7day Avg	1017.43	1007.27	 10.16	3,780,847	3,698,522	82,325	11,085	9,803	 1282
14day Avg	1038.67	1043.81	 -5.13	3,990,550	4,014,077	-23,527	10,130	10,090	  40
28day Avg	1085.84	1088.80	 -2.96	4,145,831	4,154,308	 -8,477	10,339	10,247	  92

Milestone Targets for the UK team 
	Target   		Current  	To Do    	7day Avg.	  Estimate	
RunTime	  2,500 years		      778,487	     134,013	    1017.4	 132 days Oct-16-2015	
Points 	3,000,000,000 		2,757,044,393 	 242,955,607	 3,780,847	  64 days Aug-09-2015	
Results	    6,000,000		    5,600,969	     399,031	    11,085	  36 days Jul-12-2015

No. Of Members Active Yesterday
       					        Day	        out of	 Tot.	
				Total      	78	        ,,  ,,	143	
				Group 1    	38	        ,,  ,,	 38	
				Group 2    	20	        ,,  ,,	 22	
				Group 3    	16	        ,,  ,,	 26	
				Group 4    	 4	        ,,  ,,	 10	
				InAct New	 0	        ,,  ,,	  1	
				InActive	 0	        ,,  ,,	 43	
				New/Restart	 0	        ,,  ,,	  3

UK Team Ranking 
                                			RunTime	Points	Results
UK Team Current Ranking          			44	40	42
					
Yesterday's Production Ranking    			18	17	11
					
Next Ranking improvement expected			07-Jul	15-Jul	17-Jul

Currently the UK Team is estimated to pass Improbable Island's Distributed Supercomputer
in the RunTime rankings sometime between 05-Jul and 08-Jul
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