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Former Member
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I am seeing lots more inconclusive results coming up, now well over a page pending verification. Here is an example of one doing many re-sends - https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms/devi...s.do?workunitId=897163321
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mito7
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As I see it restarted WUs are becoming Invalid. They have different size of output file than not restarted.
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Former Member
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Where Scribe the 'Inconclusive' state is pulling from for the quorum 2 MCM science, beats me. It's a zero redundant science reserved state [FAHV/FAAH e.g.] where the first copy is not outright valid.
----------------------------------------There's already a thread started several days on this: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread_thread,35851 Sequence is [if no computation error giving outright 'Error' 1) First to returns [Pending Validation] 2) Second to return [If any of the 2 had a restart], both turning Pending Verification 3) Third to return determines which go Valid, and which Invalid. Usually the 2 without restart Not seen any yet where both restarted and got a Valid without a 3rd opinion. For me this is reproducible on Linux and Windows. edit: Lol, 24 hours later, 'Inconclusive' was an abolished status, replaced by Pending Verification or PVer for short. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Nov 24, 2013 9:37:00 AM] |
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pcwr
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Also getting lots of P Ver MCM WUs (ones with original 10 day deadline), which turn Valid after the wingman has returned the resend.
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mito7
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Sekerob,
----------------------------------------I've had WU that I restarted and wingman did not and they were validated immediately (no PVer state). Although, output file size was same for both. So there is no general rule that restart invalidate WU but lot of restarted end up Invalid. ![]() |
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sgoll
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I've just seen this too, a system, running for years without errors
----------------------------------------MCM1_ 0000153_ 8607_ 2-- 726 Valid 11/23/13 09:46:11 11/23/13 12:41:57 2.68 63.0 / 59.7 MCM1_ 0000153_ 8607_ 1-- - Valid 11/20/13 16:32:31 11/21/13 09:45:09 8.60 56.4 / 59.7 MCM1_ 0000153_ 8607_ 0-- 726 Invalid 11/20/13 16:32:26 11/23/13 09:45:46 5.32 123.8 / 29.8 <core_client_version>5.10.21</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <stderr_txt> Commandline = wcgrid_mcm1_7.26_i686-pc-linux-gnu -SettingsFile MCM1_0000153_8607.txt -DatabaseFile dataset-17_72_SDG_v1.txt Initializing wcg_learn_limit = 500000 Running Result.out = 1143706.000000 Run complete, CPU time: 9663.527932 23:39:14 (32710): called boinc_finish </stderr_txt> <core_client_version>6.10.17</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <stderr_txt> Commandline = ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/wcgrid_mcm1_7.26_i686-pc-linux-gnu -SettingsFile MCM1_0000153_8607.txt -DatabaseFile dataset-17_72_SDG_v1.txt Initializing wcg_learn_limit = 500000 Running Result.out = 1143706.000000 Run complete, CPU time: 30950.834306 03:45:27 (19797): called boinc_finish </stderr_txt> <core_client_version>7.0.27</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <stderr_txt> Commandline = ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/wcgrid_mcm1_7.26_i686-pc-linux-gnu -SettingsFile MCM1_0000153_8607.txt -DatabaseFile dataset-17_72_SDG_v1.txt Initializing wcg_learn_limit = 500000 Running Commandline = ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/wcgrid_mcm1_7.26_i686-pc-linux-gnu -SettingsFile MCM1_0000153_8607.txt -DatabaseFile dataset-17_72_SDG_v1.txt Initializing wcg_learn_limit = 500000 Running Result.out = 1143841.000000 Run complete, CPU time: 19136.370000 08:43:16 (12927): called boinc_finish </stderr_txt> The result with a restarted wu is th invalid one. Strange ... Stephan ![]() [Edit 2 times, last edit by sgoll at Nov 24, 2013 9:40:36 PM] |
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Sgt.Joe
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I too am seeing an increase in both pending verification units and invalid units. This is specific to MCM1. I can not remember the last time I got an invalid unit prior to MCM1. I have not tracked how many of the pending verification units have turned either valid or invalid, but I am hoping the project eventually settles down. Evidently the specs for determining validity on this project are exact, with no room for any variation. New project, new parameters, if that is the way the researchers want it, so be it, but I still hope they can somewhat alleviate the number of invalids.
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johncmacalister2010@gmail.com
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Too many here as well:
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nanoprobe
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Looks like it might be a bigger issue with those of you running AMD CPUs then those running Intel.
----------------------------------------NM. I just looked at my results. I had no pending verification this morning and 17 pages of pending validation. I still have 17 pages of pending validation and now have 2 pages of pending verification and 3 invalid results. ![]()
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Falconet
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I did get a few invalids on my Ubuntu install with an AMD CPU. MCM1 only.
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