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Re: Building crunching computer, hardware recommendations.

Thanks for answering, your reply got me thinking about motherboards with dual sockets. I created another build this time with the e5-2620 v2 cpu.
here is the build i made.
Before I buy the parts, can i ask if you could look over the build? here is a spreadsheet with the components. that would help me a lot


The build looks fine except for one possible show stopper!

The motherboard requires 2 8-pin EPS12V CPU connectors. That power supply only has one. Sometimes you can get by using only a 4 + 4 pin connector on a workstation motherboard but I wouldn't recommend trying it.

I use this one on my dual socket AMD system:

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-80PLUS-C...rNOVA+750+80PLUS+B2


Get a Gold or Plantinum certified PSU if you can as it will save on energy costs in the long run, especially if running 24/7

The SSD is a good choice

I would get 16gb of RAM in 4 sticks (2 for each socket) so you can run in dual channel mode. 4GB of RAM isn't quite going to cut it on a system with 24 threads. Keep in mind you NEED at least one stick for each socket for both CPU's to work.
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Re: Building crunching computer, hardware recommendations.

Buying big fast overclocked rigs is easy, but for me at least paying the running costs is a major factor. Moving to dual cpu rigs certainly helped me in that regard. also your proposed 24 cores running at 2.3 would likely need the single processor running at 4.6 or more to get more work done.

You will not actually NEED 1GB ram per thread running but the closer you can get the better in that even running CEP is easy and with less reliance on swap. Running dual channel or tri channel works ok especially if MCM or FA@H is your preference.

I use both ssd and hdd and don't really see any benefit with the former. Consider too that multiple cores running CEP will put a lot of writes on your drive so when choosing an ssd it might be best to consider TBW figures.

Everything you run depends on the psu. My personal take on this is to buy the best quality you can afford. Bronze gold platinum do make a small difference but not huge in power use. If you buy 750w plus it will likely still be close to optimum when running a 33% to 60% load which means that either with a gpu running wu's as they become available or with no gpu you will be good...and you may be able to run 2 gpu's per rig in the future if you get the right psu.

looking at the spreadsheet ....4 coolers for 4 cpu's wink
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Re: Building crunching computer, hardware recommendations.

I use both ssd and hdd and don't really see any benefit with the former. Consider too that multiple cores running CEP will put a lot of writes on your drive so when choosing an ssd it might be best to consider TBW figures.


I think you can ignore the write capabilities of most SSD drives unless the CEP application is truly pathological.

http://techreport.com/review/27062/the-ssd-en...ly-two-remain-after-1-5pb

In the above test all but one or two drives survived above 6oo TB of writes, and the failures were from the control boards, not the cell life, if I remember.

Slightly reduced SSD power consumption might be a factor for some people, if your power prices are high enough.
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Thank you all for providing great feedback on the build,
Here is the new build, priced per unit, to make it easier to read.
Changes include a new PSU and more RAM. The SSD has not been changed because I will not be using this for my personal use, i also think that its pricing is very appropriate for it being an SSD and the amount of memory it provides.

This build is more expensive but i think will be worth it for optimal performance in the long run. 2 units as of right now wouldn't be possible until I can raise some more funds and cover the extra cost. I will post updates with pictures of the build once i have the parts which may take a while, but i will deliver :). On a final note, is there any specific WCG forum where hardware is discussed? i feel like it would create great discussions
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Re: Building crunching computer, hardware recommendations.

It's not a huge savings, but if you don't play to do any GPU computing, why not just use the onboard video for now? An 850 Watt power supply also seems a little excessive to me, the TDP of the E5-2620 is only 95 W. A 500 or even 400 W PSU would do just fine.
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Re: Building crunching computer, hardware recommendations.

I know its old school, but you need a CD drive.
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Re: Building crunching computer, hardware recommendations.

something for you to think about....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-Xeon-SANDY-BR...s&hash=item4adb174347

certain issues to consider if you go this route which I can help with
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Re: Building crunching computer, hardware recommendations.

An 850 Watt power supply also seems a little excessive to me, the TDP of the E5-2620 is only 95 W. A 500 or even 400 W PSU would do just fine.


It's not the watts he needs, it's the power supply which supports dual cpu. His choice happens to fit the bill plus expansion needs for powerful gpu's.

I know its old school, but you need a CD drive.


Not really, you can install Linux and probably other operating systems via usb stick. Once loaded you can download anything else you need.
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Re: Building crunching computer, hardware recommendations.

Yep. Optical drive is legacy/obsolete.
I've built a small crunching device (amd athlon 5350, 8GB, 120 GB SSD) and installed linux from usb.
It is dedicated to cep2. I've chosen a SSD because of 24/7. I don't need much capacity and a hdd for 24/7 is not that cheap too.
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Re: Building crunching computer, hardware recommendations.

I had missed out on the MCM GPU part, great to hear it is on its way!

On topic:
Without digging too deep into that build...does not XEON need ECC REG RAM?
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