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SekeRob
Master Cruncher Joined: Jan 7, 2013 Post Count: 2741 Status: Offline |
Ran a comparison on a Q6600 (no hyperthreading), at 2.4Ghz stock with 2.752 GB brand new RAM allowed, in dual boot, first W10, then Ubuntu, each a quick load set of 20 i.e., first fetch 20 on Linux, then immediately booted to W10 to fetch 20 to complete first, so as to ensure the sets came from as close the same batches as possible.
The results are: Ubuntu, mean CPU time 1.53 hours. W10, mean CPU time 2.35 hours. Not quite double the speed, but Windows was a hefty 53.5% slower at processing, close enough from what we've historically seen for all the AD Vina based sciences. If going by elapsed time, the difference is 1% greater. Too much time lost in W10 by services such a TiWorker, Search indexers and whot not, doing actually anything on W10 had a disturbing negative impact on efficiency [but than this clunker is 10years+, with a BIOS that's beyond and adaptability, and a SATA HD drive] Credits.. dog year points don't interest a BOINC cruncher: Ubuntu, credit total 882,50 (28.86/hour) W10, credit total 912.50 (20,39/hour) Not quite the same percent, but since Windows dwarfs Linux, the mean statistics system effective knocks down Linux [hey you bastardi... you want too much per unit of time] However we twist this, most important: Linux crunchers punch out 53.5% more results on OpenZika. Once again QED. |
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adriverhoef
Master Cruncher The Netherlands Joined: Apr 3, 2009 Post Count: 2167 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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johncmacalister2010@gmail.com
Veteran Cruncher Canada Joined: Nov 16, 2010 Post Count: 799 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Many thanks for the analysis. This will push me to replace the Linux drive that recently failed in my AMD 1090T, now running under the fallback Win7. My AMD FX 8350 continues to run under Linux.
----------------------------------------![]() crunching, crunching, crunching. AMD Ryzen 5 2600 6-core Processor with Windows 11 64 Pro. AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor with Windows 11 64 Pro (part time) ![]() |
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rbotterb
Senior Cruncher United States Joined: Jul 21, 2005 Post Count: 401 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Thanks for the information. I recently replaced my old Win 7 laptop with a new Win 10 one since the fan on the old laptop finally gave out and it was too old to replace the part. I'm finding the new Zika WUs as running between 30 and 90 minutes on average, so still much faster than the old laptop. Only downside now is I have to run two couple dozen or so of these WUs just to get credit for one day worth of processing time.
Back to crunching along .... |
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Rickjb
Veteran Cruncher Australia Joined: Sep 17, 2006 Post Count: 666 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
@JCMacA: "This will push me to replace the Linux drive that recently failed ..."
----------------------------------------I fairly recently replaced an almost-new 1TB HDD with a 16GB high-speed USB3.0 stick that has Debian 8.4 x64 installed, and is plugged into a USB3.0 port on a Z68 board with a 2600K CPU. This storage device uses much less power than the HDD. Performance is very acceptable - much better than USB2.0 gear - and you'd hardly know it wasn't running a mechanical HDD. (I don't know how it would go running CEP2 though.) For those of you who don't want to alter their Windows setup to make a dual-boot Windows/Linux drive, a USB3.0 stick is one way to go. OTOH, 60GB and 120GB SSDs can be had for under $100 now, then add a few $$ for a USB 3.0 caddy and boot Linux from a partition on that. @Sekerob: The Q6600 was a great crunching workhorse in its day, but 65nm technology is rather power-hungry by today's standards. Time to upgrade? If you are thinking of doing that, but not buying new, I'd go to 2600K (32nm 2nd gen) or newer. I've mostly got 3770Ks - basically the same chip but 22nm so they use a bit less juice and can be clocked faster on low-end cooling. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Rickjb at Jun 13, 2016 7:50:16 AM] |
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SekeRob
Master Cruncher Joined: Jan 7, 2013 Post Count: 2741 Status: Offline |
It's purely a a multi-OS test system. If it's on 2 days (48 hours) out of 30 in a month, it's a lot. W7, W10, Linux with a slew of different kernels to pick when the Grub menu comes up. Recently ditched all before 4.4.0, so the secondary pick-list got shortened quite a bit.
When doing the Linux v Windows performance comparison I did not exclude the outliers from the averages [no trimming]. So happened Windows set had a single 40 minute unit. That'd made the Windows number come out as 2.43 hours instead of 2.35... 59% faster Linux is/was. :D |
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kinski
Advanced Cruncher Joined: Nov 25, 2006 Post Count: 104 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Xeon E5-2675v3 stats for OpenZika
----------------------------------------Win7x64 - 2581,76 points per core per day / 8,09WUs per core per day Ubuntu16.04 - 4681,91 points per core per day / 13,6WUs per core per day ![]() |
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Speedy51
Veteran Cruncher New Zealand Joined: Nov 4, 2005 Post Count: 1293 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I am just curious to know whether or not you get the general speed increase using Ubuntu through the Windows 10 subsystem? On Windows 10 currently running anywhere from 1.26 hours to 2.11 hours. Results were returned on the 7/3 Thanks for any information
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KerSamson
Master Cruncher Switzerland Joined: Jan 29, 2007 Post Count: 1673 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Excepted for MCC which seems to be as performant on Windows as on Linux, Windows suffers (since decades) under a creepy and inefficient memory management.
----------------------------------------You can easily notice it at first if you compare the memory foot print of sciences on Windows with the memory foot print Linux. Additionally, for similar WUs (of the same project) on the same CPU, the run-time on Windows is significantly longer than on Linux. Some years ago, I made comment regarding this fact and extrapolating - based on the high number of machines operating Windows world wide - the strong negative Windows impact on the environment. I advocate since many years for energy efficiency labels (A++, A+, A, B, ..., G) for operating systems and applications like those we have for washing machines or cars. Green IT is not only using sustainable energy sources (wind, sun, water) but using the energy efficiently at first !!! Cheers, Yves |
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Jim1348
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 13, 2009 Post Count: 1066 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I think the latest version of FAH2 does a little better on Windows than Linux; look at the beta section. I will try it myself shortly.
----------------------------------------MIP also does fairly well on Windows; I run it on both Windows and Linux machines. But I limit it to two work units at a time on either, for best performance. [Edit 2 times, last edit by Jim1348 at Mar 29, 2019 6:13:29 PM] |
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