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biggrin Woudl You Want to WATCH What Your PC Is Doing?

I now have spent from several days to several months with an accumulation of six different Yahoo Widgets (all free, all amazing tools, all totally reliable) that I want to recommend to all you dudes and dudettes who are into meters, gauges and all the rest of that visual eye-candy stuff and who are slaving away as volunteers in the WCG.

These are very accurate wee devices you can size (and even reshape from squares to rectangles) to your liking, color to your liking and stack in a corner of your desk top so you can actually SEE what your PC is doing while processing a work unit for WCG.

These are netstat, Sys Monitor, CPU Monitor, Net Monitor, Disc Monitor and systemBlox. You can get them from Yahoo in their Widgets service which lists the roughly 3000 different types they have. Just enter each of the above names in the left-hand window on the Widget homepage, then download and install. (You must first install the Widget Engine--which is about 20meg, I think.) The entire process for each Widget takes about 30 seconds and some 150K of memory and they don't eat your processing time.

All Widgets are benchtested in advance of release by the Yahoo IT cats and while there is no Yahoo guarantee about bugginess, I assure you that you can trust these things. I have about 40 of them for various reasons. (You CAN put these things on what Yahoo calls the "Heads Up Display" which is like having a second desktop that you can pop into view at will--the net result being that your regular desktop is left untouched!)

There is some duplication of process being reported among this list of suggested Widgets but some are from different developers and I always like to double-check results and figure that one developer may reveal weak reporting in the Widget from another. (Comes from being an old newspaper editor. Never ever trust one source--always get a second in agreement, or don't publish the story. Dan Rather should have known this, you know, since it is so basic.) So far, they are all with a few percenages of each other. --Very reassuring!!!

smile netstat provides you current up- and down-load speeds and the total up and down totals for the current day plus a dynamic/real-time chart of both processes.

smile Sys Monitor provides you a huge array of data choices (many of which are duplicated by the other Widgets I'm recommending) but they are all in dynamic bar charts and stated percentages that tell you currently what is happening but the bars don't give you the sense of "trends" that the chart approach does.

smile Net Monitor runs two dynamic charts in mirror form in one chart (the zero-base is the same for both at your choice of sampled data at 1 to 15 second intervals of your up- and down-load activities.

smile Disc Monitor runs two dynamic charts in mirror form in one chart (the zero-base line is the same for both) of your PC's total simultaneous read and write processes.

smile CPU Monitor merges two charts--user use of CPU time and "machine" use of CPU time. The two are interfaces so that the unoccupied part of the chart reveals the unused CPU time available at each measured point in time.

smile There is only one download necessary for systemBlox but there are about 12 different application choices you can set up inside its "preferences". I use five of these in a row under the stack of the above. Each is a "rolling dial" percentage of what you want to measure.

Again, fully resizable, change the colors however you wish. I have focused on muted dark green and dark orange in all since those are the colors in netstat and its colors cannot be changed. And you can really get these things small. The systemBlox I have are about half the size of a first-class stamp. The others range in size from that up to a commemorative stamp (shin-plasterer) size, all ready size-references if you are into stamp-collecting.

Hint--netstat's graph runs from right to left, so I set all my others to do that as well, with the exception of the systemBlox, which only "roll" up and down.

So, there's my good deed for the day. You, too, can now watch the WCG work unit being processed by your computer and even note the exact instance the upload begins and the next download commences.

--Really funky eye-candy, dudes and dudettes! And these Widgets actually serve a good purpose in letting you know just what that box really is doing while you listen to the grinding and whirling sounds. (And also helps you manage your PC more effectively.)

Enjoy!

Jim Liddell biggrin
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Re: Would You Want to WATCH What Your PC Is Doing?

I gloss the BOINC log and trust my router+softwarefirewall, whilst your widgets probably require your browser to be up all the time and eating away CPU time. Opera also got widgets now and even minimised takes 16%, if lucky.

BTW, is this the same JimLiddell as the one from the "Several Suggestions from a definitely non-Geek PC User" thread?

PS....watch out for the grammer hygienists....the no-go list is surprising as i discovered
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Re: Woudl You Want to WATCH What Your PC Is Doing?

All these things are built in to Windows already. Do yourself a favour and use the faster, more reliable tools provided.

Windows is fully instrumented. If you don't want to use WMI directly, use the handy System Monitor provided.

Control Panel->Administrative Tools->Performance

There are more features and information there than you could use or understand in a lifetime, but of particular interest are the Process, Memory and Network Interface objects. You can create graphs to track absolutely anything you can think of, and a whole lot more that you never even dreamed of.

All your Yahoo bits and bobs get their information from here, so why not cut out the middle-man?
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Re: Woudl You Want to WATCH What Your PC Is Doing?

I've found the more middle-men I allow onto my computer to make life easier the more they cause problems and end up making my life harder. Lean and clean is much easier in the end. Yahoo widgets? Nyet!!
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hmmm this is interesting Didactylus.....you seem to have moved from location 'Totally Insane' to 'μηνιν άειδε θεά Πηληϊάδεω Άχιληος'. My Browser is acting up and all my search engine results our now in kanzhi.
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Re: Woudl You Want to WATCH What Your PC Is Doing?

I get around.

I shall provide a virtual reward to the first person to spot the allusion, and link it to me and mine.
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Re: Woudl You Want to WATCH What Your PC Is Doing?

I'll have to admit to being an obsessive system watcher as well. I have to know exactly what my machine's doing at all times. But instead of the widgets (sounds kinda like the Norton System Monitor util I used years ago) or the built-in XP monitor, I've ended up with a mish-mash of 3rd party utils.

I use SpeedFan to monitor component temps and automatically adjust the fans as needed, DU Meter to watch the overall up/down network traffic, NetLimiter for detailed app-by-app (or even socket-by-socket) traffic monitoring and/or throttling, and a great app called TaskInfo tells me everything that it's possible to report, but takes up a lot of screen so I end up popping it up and down a lot.
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biggrin Re: Woudl You Want to WATCH What Your PC Is Doing?

Jim2: "Hi, Jim!"

Jim1: "Hi....."

Jim2: "You sure received a fast-footed flock of negatives and putdowns from that post, Jim!"

Jim1: "Yeah..."

Jim2: "So what did you learn from this, Jim?"

Jim1: "--That none of these dudes are Star-Trekkies."

Jim2: "And you associate Star Trek with Yahoo Widgets?"

Jim1: "They canceled the show! --What do have I left but Yahoo Widgets and computers and stuff?"

Jim2: "That's sad!"

Jim1: "--Wanna see my imitation of Spock?"

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(Still, the Widgets are cool, dudes and duettes. The touch intended in the first post was light because the subject is so very serious, but the touch was also serious because so much of this process is invisible--and the Widgets are attractive, accurate, far more flexible than the alternatives suggested above. And, finally, you don't have to interrrupt what you are doing to see the "built-in" stuff that MS provides. Instead, you can just glance to the corner of your screen and see the whole show in one show. And I hope that's an end to these slights.)
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I don't mind admitting that my feelings got very badly bruised from all the putdowns I received, especially from those who began touting the HIDDEN/ONE-AT-A-TIME/EXCEEDING-UGLY-INDUSTRIAL-GRADE Microsoft built-in graphs.

These Widgets are all displayed at the same time so you can watch events from several perspectives simultaneously. They are very attractive as well--and they are not "probably inaccurate". They ARE VERY accurate.

Finally, these Widgets I suggested are very low CPU-consuming. I am running 22 Widgets right now, plus seven processes (including my O/S and security softwares) and I'm using only 12 percent of my CPU.

Big hopping deal, you know?

So, without wanting to sound like I'm flaming, ranting or being ingrateful for the kindly assistance I received getting started and getting my understanding of a sig-banner nestled into your system, I ask that all previously posters be a little more gentle and receptive to new ideas being broached by new folks who are suffering from enthusiasm for the newness of the WCG world.

It definitely would be beneficial for all concerning--including the intended audience--if you would first stop and READ the post for comprehension, instead of just aggressively dismissing it out of hand without stopping to compare your alternative to what is being suggested. Analysis of an issue provides two-thirds of the answer in all controversies, you know!

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Re: Woudl You Want to WATCH What Your PC Is Doing?

Putdowns? Nobody is putting you down, merely suggesting alternatives.

And your description of Microsoft's capabilities indicates that you either didn't bother looking at them at all, or you didn't get very far. You can track as many variables at once as you want, and graph them in any way you want.

12 percent is an awful lot, you know...

But then, I confess I don't understand this obsession with constantly watching every aspect of my systems. I'm usually far too busy actually using them, you know? The only time I need the monitoring tools are when I'm examining a specific anomaly or aspect of my computer.

Please try not to take offense so easily, or in this text-only world of the web, you are very likely to spend all your time being offended - and that's no fun for anybody concerned.
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