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David Autumns
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Here's an extract from a post I made earlier but it deserves it's own thread
---------------------------------------------- I'm working on another project to spread the word on the WCG but I'm still waiting on IBM to approve logo's and buttons. In the event that I cannot gain approval I'm looking to any member to contribute a logo each that could be used a la www.spreadfirefox.com. I'll host the logo's/advertising stings and produce the stats on who gains the most click throughs from the logo's on their websites blogs email sigs. I've been campaigning for some time for this feature on the website I'm giving up on being frustrated by IBM. It's time to get the word out. It's time to get some T Shirts printed and that "I crunch" baseball cap available. It's time to take getting more crunchers on board into our own hands. To see how we are getting on promoting the WCG take a look at http://www.wcgwiki.org/spreadtheword/top10.cfm to get your own account to "spread the word" on the World Community Grid feature for your website blog email sig take a look at http://www.wcgwiki.org/spreadtheword/register.cfm N.B. the use of the trial logo is currently not sanctioned by IBM and consequently the use of the logo could result in legal action against you - you have been warned I personally can't wait any longer. If we can't get IBM's agreement then the logo will soon be replaced by a number of our own designs. In the meantime here's where you will find mine http://www.myonlineworship.org you will find my email address on this site and also behind the envelope icon below my sig I'm looking for your support. Your comments please. Dave ![]() |
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Former Member
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I personally can't wait any longer. If we can't get IBM's agreement then the logo will soon be replaced by a number of our own designs. Sigh. As soon as I realized that the logo for the WCG was trademarked and protected by lawyers, I suggested that we adopt our own unofficial logo based on a globe. Which would allow us a vast variety of globes, including views for a specific country for specific promotions. I'm not prejudiced against lawyers. Lots of my relatives have been lawyers, including my grandfather. But be realistic. Life is like a pinball game where lawyers are the barriers that the ball bounces off of. Just my opinion, Lawrence |
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When you're out driving and you're hungry and want a quick bite you don't look for the word McDonald's, you look for the golden arches, the logo. Or maybe your bag is KFC. Either way, it works because there is one logo and only one logo recognised universally as being synonymous with the food you want.
----------------------------------------If you want to represent WCG with a logo then it should be the WCG logo. Otherwise people think you're talking about something other than WCG. Will they figure it out? Well they might or they might just turn their nose up at the ambiguity and move on. Why should they play your game? Why shouldn't they move on and find something served up plain and simple the way they want it? This is not to suggest websites or campaigns promoting WCG should use the WCG logo as their own logo. Their own logo should be unique. If they want to use a logo in addition to their own to suggest some connection to WCG then it should be the original WCG logo or no WCG logo at all. If no WCG logo at all then the words World Community Grid are the next best thing for conveying the message. Though the words themselves are not artistic they are at least unambiguous. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Jul 22, 2006 2:19:50 AM] |
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David Autumns
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Where would it get us if I was being realistic? Most of the time it really is pointless getting out of bed and doing anything at all....
----------------------------------------We have an opportunity here to make a difference even if it turns out only to be a small one in the grand scheme of things so tell me Why not just do it which brings to mind another logo doesn't it so why not the World Community Grid's I have had one click through this morning that is potentially one more member bringing those goalposts that much nearer. Who's up for not being realistic? Dave ![]() [Edit 1 times, last edit by David Autumns at Jul 22, 2006 10:01:16 AM] |
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I do wonder sometimes about the WCG logo design. It's not IBM's best effort. The official version is actually green, but the version on the website is closer to blue. It doesn't scale well. At small sizes it reduces to a blob, and they had to resort to a feeble sort of chevron effect for the agent icon. Finally, the logo includes transparency, and often isn't rendered correctly as a result.
The concept's fine, and it looks pretty - but it doesn't work in many situations. We could always have a competition for a new logo, vote on the winner, then assign the copyright to WCG (while releasing it under an open license so it can be used for the purposes intended). Now that should scare the lawyers into action! |
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David Autumns
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OK what say we give it one more week and then if no joy from Big Blue is to be had then we launch a logo competition from banners to logos to buttons. Every other campaign to get noticed uses them why can't we?
----------------------------------------I'll be back here in 1 weeks time that's the 29th July 2006 at 17:30pm BST (British Summer Time) who knows we might even have IBM's blessing ![]() Ever the optimist Dave ![]() |
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We could run the best logo competition there ever was and come up with the best logo the world has ever seen, a logo that renders well and works perfect in very way but don't expect them to adopt it almost 2 years into the game. The current logo is not perfect but it has gained recognition, status and respect. WCG would be crazy to throw all that away and start with a new logo.
----------------------------------------I am willing to bet your average surfer doesn't even notice the fact that WCG's logo renders differently in different situations. I bet the few who do notice don't really care. Logos are not something the average surfer examines in detail. Logos get a quick glance to verify you're at the right place and then the eye moves to the content and the logo is all but forgotten. Use the current logo. Use it in a wholesome manner in keeping with the image WCG wishes to project and you probably won't hear anything about it from them. It should also be used with proper recognition which means using the TM symbol for trademark beside it and an acknowledgement of the owner. They are most certainly not going to drag your butt into court immediately. If they don't like the way you use their logo you'll get a letter requesting that you stop using it. If you ignore that letter then for sure they'll have you in court. Edit: I sense the Silly Pedant Squad gathering for a debate about the meaning of wholesome and the image WCG wishes to project. I suggest those who need that debate start a thread called Lookin' fer a Fight Over Anything and Everything and Therefore Nothing. If I don't show up immediately just go ahead and start without me. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Jul 22, 2006 9:23:12 PM] |
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Companies have had image changes before now. I'm sure it's not an attractive route for WCG, but right now the logo lacks that instant recognisability. It's not a part of the public consciousness. If we can pull that off, then WCG might welcome the image update with open arms.
Brand recognition is a funny thing. Heard of Inprise? Just one failed image makeover. On the flip side, who can remember what firefox was called before it got that nifty logo? Can you remember the logo Google used in those heady first few months when pagerank was new and shiny? So, it can be done. It can also be done wrong. If WCG insist on playing the lone wolf, then we owe it to ourselves at least to attempt the experiment. |
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As usual, Didactylos, you argue your point well. True, their logo is not part of the public consciousness. I would add that it may never be part of public consciousness because it's just not "sexy" enough. It's not ugly, it's just plain and quite forgettable, doesn't reach out and grab ya, like that nifty Firefox logo does.
OK, I'm for the optomistic approach too. Give them a week and if they don't come around then launch a logo contest. If I can master The GIMP then I will probably even submit an entry myself. Already I have a clue for succes, I think, no transparency. Now, who could host a logo contest ![]() ![]() |
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David Autumns
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What you mean the kind where folk can register, upload their logo, which then immediately appears on a webpage for all to see and vote on...
----------------------------------------nope don't know anyone who could do that kind of thing ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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