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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
From wikipedia.org's BOINC Credit System page...
Recent average credit "To calculate the useful amount of work provided by a computer, a special calculation called Recent Average Credit (RAC) is used. This calculation is designed to estimate the number of credits a computer, user, and team will accumulate on an average day. Due to the many variables not taken into account including the inconsistency of host processing, time it takes to validate work units, discrepancies in benchmarks, and possible project down time, the RAC calculation proves to be only a guide not a finite number. Additionally RAC is independent of computers, users, and teams, meaning they cannot be simply added up. RAC was originally meant to help scientists understand the computational power available to them and to increase competition among users by allowing even new users to quickly move up in rank based on RAC, which should directly reflect how fast work is being processed." I agree, you do seem to have a good community going on here. :) |
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Optimised clients worry me because they tend to polarise people: those that see it as no problem, and those that see it as cheating (not to mention those few scumbags who deliberately use tools to cheat). So, since there is no optimised science applications for WCG projects, personally I would be happier if people used a calibrating client or the standard client. That way, the people who genuinely manage to contribute more get properly rewarded. The client calibrated specially for WCG may work. Awarding a fixed number of credits, which means that granting credits depend not on time/resourse used to crunch a WU but on the amount of work actually done, may also work. This absolutely gives the credits which aren't inflated. However, this can eliminate the interchangeability of credits granted by each project. For example, please imagine this situation: while a project A would give a host 50 credits with crunching for 10 hours, another one B would award the host 100 credits (twice!) with crunching for the same length of hours. So, what would it cause? IMHO those who crunches with interest of the science would continue working on A at the same level, but others, especially hard competitiors, would switch projects A from B, or change the share lower. This would slowdown the process of the project... It's just imaginary of mine, but it can happen anyway. If the fixed credits system would be introduced, one of the important issues that should be solved is to keep the interchangeability as much as possible. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Sep 9, 2006 5:27:17 AM] |
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<Getting back on topic>
Great going again yesterday XS - 782K scored - just shows the awesome firepower you have from a relatively small number of crunchers compared to Easynews and Clubic, 91 members compared to over 4,000 for those two ![]() Keep up the awesome work folks! ![]() |
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<Getting back on topic> Great going again yesterday XS - 782K scored - just shows the awesome firepower you have from a relatively small number of crunchers compared to Easynews and Clubic, 91 members compared to over 4,000 for those two ![]() Keep up the awesome work folks! ![]() Thanks Ady, This team crunches[whatever their current project] with intensity that will be unrivaled. It has a group of concerned dedicated people that are not afraid to "put up" the resources required to accomplish the tasks required. I am currently placing 28 devices[with 34 core] on this project funded and maintained by my self, as a means to give back to humanity.[expensive ![]() I personally don't care about "points" but they are what drives the system, and find it odd that someone would broach a "points query" in a thread to boost team moral ![]()
mike
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<Getting back on topic> Great going again yesterday XS - 782K scored - just shows the awesome firepower you have from a relatively small number of crunchers compared to Easynews and Clubic, 91 members compared to over 4,000 for those two ![]() Keep up the awesome work folks! ![]() Have you guys passed us yet? I'm afraid to look. ![]() ![]() |
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Hi Patty, my friend. You've been at it way too long for us to have passed you yet. BBT is another small team that packs a punch that belies its size. So it will be a while. But we're working on it... :)
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we are here to be n°1 and we dont want problems like we had in rosetta hope the comunity here is better than in rosetta.
you guys will see us going up quite fast when we settle down the team we are still in low power mode so fear us ![]() ![]() |
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we are here to be n°1 and we dont want problems like we had in rosetta hope the comunity here is better than in rosetta. you guys will see us going up quite fast when we settle down the team we are still in low power mode so fear us ![]() ![]() Fear? Inspired!!!! Back at the ranch, we get airborn over cracking 80WUs! At just shy of the 2000 WUs a day you lot kick out, I feel a cat moment coming on. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Heh. Nothing like the scent of competition in the air.
If only Lauterm hadn't got that new job.... a few hundred school PCs crunching all summer would have given us quite a boost. EasyNews are going to take a lot of shifting, though. But it's not impossible! When we (Team UF) started, Slashdot owned the rankings. Now, they're eating our dust. There's hope for all of us. (And it took us bl**dy ages to pass BBT!) |
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I don't know anything about the client that has led to XtremeSystems being branded "cheaters". Certainly, you're all most welcome here, and we won't go throwing around such incendiary words without some proof. The thing is, I don't know anything about "crunch3rs optimised files". Me neither, before my time. I do know that they are a great bunch of guys with obvious integrity who are leaders of a community that help those dedicated to getting the most out of their systems. As such, they are very influential with those who have the most computing power to spare and are currently working very hard to use that influence to attract people to wcg's cause. This is how I joined. Xtremesystems is simply the best resource for navigating the bleeding edge of personal computing. While there to learn how to get the most out of c2d, I came across their crunching "solicitation" sigs and wanted to throw in with them as appreciation for all the help I've received at XS and do a good thing at the same time. Not sure about Crunch3r, but see that it is recommended by Boinc/TruXoft here. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Sep 9, 2006 4:17:15 PM] |
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