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I noticed that they took tons of hours (11 allegedly) to complete and didn't want to waste any time. I'll chalk my one errored out WU to random chance/my monkeying.


They are huge. I'd one take 33+ hours on a Q6600 quad. I think they are trying to compete with CPDN. laughing biggrin laughing
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I actually have a related query. I just got my first Clean Energy Project WU and got a computation error. Now, that might be because I'd been changing the speed of my CPU all day and am now seriously overclocked at 3.24ghz (Thanks Blizzie. Vcore is set to 1.4 btw, is that too low for 3.2ghz?). Or it might be new project issues. Has anyone else seen a Clean Energy failure?


1.4vcore is a bit high for 2.34 GHz. Did you stress test it before crunching.

You might be able to get 3.4 GHz with 1.42 vcore.. But again.. Every CPU is different so you must test for stability. Then lower vcore down until it is no longer stable.
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I actually have a related query. I just got my first Clean Energy Project WU and got a computation error. Now, that might be because I'd been changing the speed of my CPU all day and am now seriously overclocked at 3.24ghz (Thanks Blizzie. Vcore is set to 1.4 btw, is that too low for 3.2ghz?). Or it might be new project issues. Has anyone else seen a Clean Energy failure?


1.4vcore is a bit high for 2.34 GHz. Did you stress test it before crunching.

You might be able to get 3.4 GHz with 1.42 vcore.. But again.. Every CPU is different so you must test for stability. Then lower vcore down until it is no longer stable.


Sorry brain f@rt. I mean 3.34ghz at 1.4 vcore. Seems stable. No crashes, Boinc up all night, no overheating (at 55C under load), even the graphics OC seems to have gone fine. 702 mhz up from 600!
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It helps when I move my PC to the window where the air is coming in at 20F. For a few hours my CPU was at 3.5 ghz with a higher vcore obviously and CPU temps never went above 45C under full load (and graphics crunching)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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It helps when I move my PC to the window where the air is coming in at 20F. For a few hours my CPU was at 3.5 ghz with a higher vcore obviously and CPU temps never went above 45C under full load (and graphics crunching)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Have to make sure it's fully stable with a stress test. WCG doesn't count.
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MyOnlineTeam Daily Statistics for 12/08 - All Members:

Team rank movement report
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Prior New Current
Member name Rank Change Rank Points
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Jonathan Figdor 21 -1 22 3,638,019
Mushball 22 +1 21 3,650,589
Pandas Dad 66 -1 67 705,614
mlafferty 67 +1 66 715,359
Martle 68 -1 69 683,253
johng 69 +1 68 683,451
LemurFox 75 -1 76 599,540
Jockin 76 +1 75 599,906
Ben Pearson 171 -1 172 91,127
rwillis 172 -1 173 91,107
Hytower 173 -1 174 90,445
sammercer 174 -1 175 89,333
brown chris 175 +4 171 92,100

Points milestones report
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mlafferty reached 700,000 points applause

Runtime milestones report
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No runtime milestones found. sad

Results returned milestones report
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Tomwp returned their 3,500th result applause
mlafferty returned their 2,200th result applause

New members report
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No new members found. sad

Retired members report
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No new retired members found. smile

For the week as a team:

Statistics  Total Run Time  Points   Results
Date (y:d:h:m:s) Earned Returned
12/08/2008 0:126:08:42:14 255,643 367
12/07/2008 0:122:06:47:21 254,970 344
12/06/2008 0:122:13:29:13 251,890 357
12/05/2008 0:134:11:58:56 270,494 382
12/04/2008 0:134:09:28:22 272,795 388
12/03/2008 0:119:14:36:07 249,536 361
12/02/2008 0:126:09:10:36 254,902 375


Team Records:
Results Returned: 12/19/2007 2,522
Points: 12/19/2007 379,990
Runtime: 01/25/2006 1:123:00:53:34

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marysduby 1 0 25,510,083 20,448
nl59056 2 0 14,670,825 1,708
parmesian 3 0 10,076,761 15,437
Esteban69 4 0 8,647,756 7,402
Coingames 5 0 5,844,567 1,662
Fanie 6 0 5,385,926 5,634
Blizzie 7 0 5,289,604 14,905
Dave Bell 8 0 5,032,675 17,251
RT 9 0 4,960,936 36,235
Graham 10 0 4,479,295 1,814
frans6nl 11 0 4,324,314 6,784
PohSoon 12 0 4,214,727 2,442
keithhenry 13 0 4,198,126 12,575
Mushball 14 +1 3,650,589 22,142
Jonathan Figdor 15 -1 3,638,019 5,775
sulcata 16 0 2,834,347 9,596
Alain Bryden 17 0 2,495,385 0
Vuj 18 0 2,427,729 0
stares 19 0 1,978,634 5,886
lawrencehardin 20 0 1,892,681 1,192
siseberg 21 0 1,554,495 708
finman 22 0 1,549,545 993
largethunder 23 0 1,533,498 2,870
Wunderwuzzi 24 0 1,504,944 0
Tomwp 25 0 1,482,030 8,643
wrr 26 0 1,232,171 1,007
charlie99 27 0 1,207,209 0
AStafford 28 0 936,090 0
Sunny L. Kae 29 0 918,452 5,307
Blueprint 30 0 885,620 14,256
Arthur256 31 0 838,723 2,783
mlafferty 32 0 715,359 16,841
johng 33 0 683,451 2,961
laughing66607 34 0 661,005 496
JerBlock 35 0 615,048 0
Jockin 36 0 599,906 443
John Conrad 37 0 580,096 1,549
Airwolf_Liu 38 0 535,492 529
elpe 39 0 432,689 712
NiceMedTexMD 40 0 393,485 1,889
Bon Kuhlman 41 0 369,482 0
Momentary Lapse of Reason 42 0 250,575 0
mapplebeck 43 0 210,593 0
harry_i_c 44 0 203,195 1,878
imin 45 0 194,322 0
madambaster 46 0 189,567 0
cknotty 47 0 163,471 0
Harry de Swart 48 0 117,912 0
brown chris 49 0 92,100 2,890
- dc 50 0 58,572 0
Daragaaz 51 0 31,838 0
grandsaga 52 0 7,051 0


Note: Active members are those who earned points in the prior 30 days.

Top Ten active members returning points today:
01: RT - 36,235 points
02: Mushball - 22,142 points
03: marysduby - 20,448 points
04: Dave Bell - 17,251 points
05: mlafferty - 16,841 points
06: parmesian - 15,437 points
07: Blizzie - 14,905 points
08: Blueprint - 14,256 points
09: keithhenry - 12,575 points
10: sulcata - 9,596 points

Total points returned today: 255,643
Active members returning points today: 36
Average points per member active today: 7101.19444
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The i7 has 4 cores but 8 threads so it's considered a "Octo" core. It is not a true Octo just yet. I'm not sure how crunching on those virtual cores will turn out though.

64 bit operating system should not affect crunching by producing bad work unit results.


On the first issue, I am not an expert on the processors. But watching this i7 makes one wonder. It is Hyper-Threading but it seems to work differently than the previous incarnation of Hyper-Threading. Watching the CPU utilization stats on the 4 cores indicates that at least 8 processes are needed to keep them all maxed out. Now that does not seem right but that is what the monitors show. I will cut that machine off from the net for a while today and see if we can get an estimate of the number of CPU hours per hour it produces (can be somewhat deceiving). And how many Cancer WUs per hour; perhaps that will shed some light on the matter. No, there is no overclocking or other tinkering been done on any of these processors ... at least yet.

As to HPFII work units, my personal experience indicates we need to keep HPFII off the 64 bit machines with 64bit vista.

One of the CAs might want to point this out to the WCG Techs and have them take a look at the HPFII stats:

64bit Quads with 64bit Vista:
Gimli (i7 920) 4 pending, 3 valid, 11 failures.
Gandalf (Core2 Q9550) 7 pending, 9 failures

The 32 bit Vista results are:
Elrond 1 in process, 2 pending, 1 valid
Eowyn: 1 pending, 2 valid, 1 failure

32 bit XP results:
Theoden: 1 Pending

Dual Core with 64bit Vista results
Samwise 1 pending, 1 valid.

Sorry that I do not have more stats on this but this is all I can see at the moment.

Kind Regards to all.


Update:

I blocked the i7 920 from getting to the net ending at 9PM Central Time. Now in doing this test I started when 8 work units were running and at the end of the test 8 work units were running. Just looking at the % complete it did not appear that there was a significant difference between the amount processed prior to the test starting and that was running when the test ended. So in the 17 work units, that were completed, the work already done when the test started was counted and all the work in progress at the end was not counted. So it seems that it was sort of a sloppy version of "fair".

In 12 hours, it processed 17 Cancer work units that lasted an average of 5hr 42 minutes. So, if you believe that, then it produced 96.9 work-hours in 12 hours or 8.075 hours of work per hour....now given the somewhat sloppy process, I believe that at least all the CPU time was counted (whether real or not) and we would have to run some time with only 4 concurrent WUs to see if they would run faster on a dedicated processor. Something that I don't have the desire to do at the moment. But harkening back to the earlier discussion on what the monitors show, it takes 8 WUs (not 7) to keep all the processors running 100%. So what can we draw from all this?

I don't know except that Gimli does lots of work and I think that one needs to run more than 4 simultaneous WUs on this type of quad--likely 2 per core. smile

If anyone else runs any tests and has contrary findings or can shed more light on this, I would certainly be interested. smile

EDIT> Looking at similar WUs on my 9550, they seem to be averaging 3 hours and 50 mins.. So, that means that the Q9550 does about 12.5 WUs in that same 12 hour period that the i7 ran 17. Beats Me d oh Makes my old brain fade.
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I don't know except that Gimli does lots of work and I think that one needs to run more than 4 simultaneous WUs on this type of quad--likely 2 per core.smile


I agree entirely that it can pump out masses of work units fast, but did you check the temperature when it was crunching on all eight cores?

My i7 has been crunching constantly the last couple of days at only 4 cores, and the cores are currently running toasty at between 65-80 degrees Celsius each.

I guess the temperature would also vary on the environment, its currently quite warm over here in Australia and we're entering summer now, so we're gonna be hitting around 30-40 degrees Celsius on a daily basis soon.
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