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Re: It is time to move to CUDA/BOINC !!!!

Soothsayer ... I think not. Please do not make assumptions about my motives for crunching. I will be crunching with my GPU when the time comes even if points, credits, badges, post counts, naysayers, and the forums all go away. Good day sir.
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confused Re: It is time to move to CUDA/BOINC !!!!

WCG would never have GPU apps soon unless a new project comes in with life expectancy of about 5 yrs (like faah or HPF2).

Lets view it as business. WCG is IBMs charity and charity gives an advantage on both ways. I don't know how it's calculated but its good for reducing IBMs tax. WCG needs projects to continue and if projects ends quickly because of CPU+GPU thats no good for business.

The addition of GPU would give WCGs crunching speed up to 50% increase thus project's ending date would be closer than you think. Unless every project will be feeder limited to meet the project end date which is still not enough. GPUs are really really fast (what more would it be with the up coming Nvidia's GT300).

We'll just have to understand that this is a business decision. That's my take, what do you think?
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Re: It is time to move to CUDA/BOINC !!!!

WCG is not a charity, it is just a part of IBM, so I think tax rules particular to charities don't apply here. I think the corresponding tax reduction is only because WCG adds up to IBM expenses and thus reduces the profit of the IBM entity hosting it.

That said your reasoning on the size of the project is still true because launching a new project (or adding GPU to an existing one) means several months of work, therefore WCG currently has a requirement when selecting projects that there should be at least six calendar months of crunching to do. And obviously, if a project is GPU enabled it will have to be much bigger than if it were not for reaching this objective.

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Re: It is time to move to CUDA/BOINC !!!!

personaly i would love to see GPU crunching but i do not think that any of my gpu's are powerfull/new enough to join in but we are working.

if they launch it i will see if my gpu's can handle it or not... even if they cant i would love to see it.

of corse there are other BOINC projects that use GPU's... untill then you could crunch those and help make sure the BOINC app is ready if/when WCG finds something that will work well with GPU projects.

personally i have tried a few GPU apps and my computer temperatures jumped so fast that i decided it wasn't worth it at this time for me.

I will admit if the forums and the badges were not here i might crunch less for WCG and crunch more for some other projects but they are here so i am with 99% of all my CPU's to WCG

personally i want to see projects completed and new projects come online hopefully we can get all processors that are available to run but till then i will take whatever i can get crunching there
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Re: It is time to move to CUDA/BOINC !!!!

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Re: It is time to move to CUDA/BOINC !!!!

of corse there are other BOINC projects that use GPU's... untill then you could crunch those and help make sure the BOINC app is ready if/when WCG finds something that will work well with GPU projects.


Exactly my thoughts. cool
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sad Re: It is time to move to CUDA/BOINC !!!!

Hi guys,
Hey, I thought the CUDA functionality was built into BOINC! In other words, whatever crunching was to be done, it would just do it using CUDA if it would help.
Now I have come here to the WCG website, poking around to see what info there is on CUDA, and this thread explains why I curiously have found almost nothing.
Also explains why I have seen no increases since I upgraded almost my whole team to CUDA-capable GPUs!
Also, the latest version (6.6.38) BOINC is constantly "requesting new tasks for GPU", which 6.6.28 or whatever never used to do... when I had assumed CUDA was working.
Too bad! No CUDA - and BOINC is so proud of it, too.
Damn, I shoulda bought the 4870... LoL.
Thanks again for info,
Regards
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Re: It is time to move to CUDA/BOINC !!!!

Hey KahunaBob,

I don't know if i'm really allowed to say this, so if i'm not just delete the post please! But since you have all of those CUDA capable GPUs, why not try another worthy project like GPUGrid? It's Bionics also so low hassle (unless you have 260's...And it's still not to bad even then - I have one), it's medical science, and it helps work out the bugs for Bionics, so when we get it on here, there will be less to worry about!

(also an easy switch from GPUGrid to WCG when available since both are on bionic!)

That's how I view it!

Either way, happy crunching!
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cool Re: It is time to move to CUDA/BOINC !!!!

...all of those CUDA capable GPUs

Well, three heheh, plus one X1900XT.
I am going right now to pickup a 1GB HD4870 to replace the 1900. I can get these for $169 CDN! Sweet price....
For ages my dream-card was a GTS250 and (because of CUDA) I wouldn't even look at ATI, but apparently these 4870 are even more powerful than GTX260.
why not try another worthy project like GPUGrid? It's Bionics also

I'll just continue to crunch away with my ATI like everyone else. Supposedly the new BOINC will support ATI's version of CUDA anyway.
I will wait and see what WCG comes up with in the future to take advantage of the technology.
I hope it's not so, what one guy posted about there not being enough work to go around if GPU computing speeds things up tremendously.
I like to hope there is plenty of work to be done, and WCG would welcome the speed increase...
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