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Former Member
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So hurricane Igor hits Newfoundland: "This is the worst storm this town has ever seen and this is the most damage we've ever seen. Looks like you're just as good at quoting things that fit your agenda. Maybe the quote should read "This is the worst storm this town has seen lately and this is the most damage we've seen lately."Did I say MMGW? No. My point was that the article suggested that there had been no severe hurricanes since 2004, not 1775. See you just reinforced a point that I made, that you are willing to tailor your posts to fit YOUR agenda without regard for other's opinions. I suggest a refresher course in debating could be a help. The writer's opinion was wrong as there have been severe hurricanes. Now for your 'incorrect opinion' on year over year statistics. In the 2010 hurricane season, to the end of Sept 2010 there were 2 TropicalDepressions, 7 TropicalStorms, 2 Hurricanes and 5 MajorHurricanes for a total of 16 named storms http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/2010atlan.shtml . In the year 2009 to the end of Sept 2009 there were 2 TD, 5 TS and 2 H for a total of 9 named storms http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/2009atlan.shtml Anybody care to dispute the 2010 hurricane season is more active than 2009? Probably is someone who can't read. Care to look at 2008 to the end of Sept 2008 http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/2008atlan.shtml 0 TD, 6 TS, 4 H and 2 MH for a total of 12 named storms. Last time I looked 16 is still more than 12 and 5 MH is still more than 2 MH. The writer's opinion there has been no major damage since 2004 is a lie, proven by the people who had to live through 100+ mile per hour storms and lost everything they owned. If you try that out, I guarantee it you will not like it either. |
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David Autumns
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astrolab you are right
----------------------------------------but the thing is katrina is the poster child of the mmgw movement and the hurricanes around the Gulf are the ones that make the headlines If there had been major damage across the Southern States then this would have been "Global Warming" and it's true that Al's predictions of more and also more intense storms would have been backed up But they are not - most have blown themselves out at Sea this year. Last year none made landfall What is true is that Hurricane Season's vary, just as they have always done and much like the graph on this page http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/en/home/seaice_extent.htm there isn't a man made disaster unfolding before our very eyes This is the point that those on the Skeptic side want to to make clear to those like yourself who are interested enough to read and post here. Our Climate is not bent in the shape the Alarmists, the mainstream media and the politicians would like it to be. It's just the natural cycles of the changing weather on our beautiful planet. Anything else is just the handy hijacking of a perfectly normal situation by various parties with their own agenda many of which are not benign. Dave  |
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nanoprobe
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people who had to live through 100+ mile per hour storms and lost everything they owned. If you try that out, I guarantee it you will not like it either. If I need a refresher course in debating I suggest you brush up on your reading comprehension. What part of "I lived in south Fl. in 1992 when Andrew struck" did you not understand? Look up the term "carpet bombing" and you'll get an idea of what Homestead looked like after Andrew. The wind velocity meter at Homestead AFB registered a gust of 197 MPH before it was ripped from the building so I'm quite aware of what 100+ MPH winds can do. Something I never hope you experience. I only read what you quoted as said by the writer from Newfoundland. He obviously didn't do his homework from a historical perspective. Now for your 'incorrect opinion' on year over year statistics. In the 2010 hurricane season, to the end of Sept 2010 there were 2 TropicalDepressions, 7 TropicalStorms, 2 Hurricanes and 5 MajorHurricanes for a total of 16 named storms http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/2010atlan.shtml . In the year 2009 to the end of Sept 2009 there were 2 TD, 5 TS and 2 H for a total of 9 named storms http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/2009atlan.shtml Anybody care to dispute the 2010 hurricane season is more active than 2009? Probably is someone who can't read. Care to look at 2008 to the end of Sept 2008 http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/2008atlan.shtml 0 TD, 6 TS, 4 H and 2 MH for a total of 12 named storms. Last time I looked 16 is still more than 12 and 5 MH is still more than 2 MH. My incorrect opinion? Too funny. 2004- 16 tropical depressions, 15 named storms, 9 hurricanes, and 6 major hurricanes. Following your math that's 46 named storms. I hate to inform you but it doesn't work that way. Once a storm reaches tropical storm status it is then named. It may become a hurricane and then maybe a major hurricane but it retains the same name. That does not equal 3 named storms. Nice try. In closing, I've lived in south or central Fl. for almost 60 years and I have seen more hurricanes close up than most people ever will but that is really not the topic of this thread is it? When you quote a writer who said Igor brought his town the worst damage it had ever seen maybe you should verify such a broad statement. Obviosly the writer was in error which makes you look bad for quoting him. Carry on. I'm done. 
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Carry on. I'm done. peace--No you have a long way to go!!
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2004- 16 tropical depressions, 15 named storms, 9 hurricanes, and 6 major hurricanes. Following your math that's 46 named storms. I hate to inform you but it doesn't work that way Ok so you want to jump to 2004. Here are the storms recorded by the US National Hurricane Center for 2004:* Hurricane Alex * Tropical Storm Bonnie * Hurricane Charley * Hurricane Danielle * Tropical Storm Earl * Hurricane Frances * Hurricane Gaston * Tropical Storm Hermine * Hurricane Ivan * Tropical Depression Ten * Hurricane Jeanne * Hurricane Karl * Hurricane Lisa * Tropical Storm Matthew * Subtropical Storm Nicole * Tropical Storm Otto This list looks like 1 TD, 6 TS, 5 H and 4 MH (Charlie,Francis, Ivan,Karl). That comes to 16 named storms. There is only one Tropical Depression named 'Ten'. Maybe there is another list of Tropical depressions for 2004. I just don't see how you get 46 names from that list. 16 Lines, 16 Storms. I double checked the math. |
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Actually, That Is Called Steam …. http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2010/10/22/actually-that-is-called-steam/
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Arctic Report Card for 2010 (NOAA):
http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/reportcard/ArcticReportCard_full_report.pdf In 2010, the Arctic-wide warming seen in recent years is continuing, impacting every aspect of the Arctic environment and beyond. Sea-ice extent remains at record lows, which is opening northern shipping routes. Some wildlife populations are increasing, such as some sea birds and whales, while many others are in decline or negatively impacted. With more warmth, permafrost is melting in many places. Northern forest fires are occurring more frequently. Duration of snow cover is decreasing. And many glaciers are losing mass. Impacts on commercial fisheries are complex, depending on the species and location. What does all this mean? The Arctic is continuing to move into a new and different climate state. Loss of Greenland glacial ice impacts sea level. Arctic sea-ice coverage is shrinking, and the ice remaining is much thinner than it was in the past. Ice-free areas of the ocean are warmed by the sun during the summer, releasing that heat to the atmosphere in autumn. This weakens the winds that normally circle the North Pole, allowing outbreaks of cold, Arctic air to the south. Will this trend continue? As the Arctic becomes warmer, it is increasingly difficult to rebuild the thick, multi-year sea-ice cover seen in previous decades. Therefore, recent conditions seen throughout the Arctic environment are likely to persist into the future. |
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That Pesky MWP--- https://mail.google.com/mail/?shva=1#inbox/12bd682da5498f51 ---Top scientist is killed in G-Wiz electric car horror smash --http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13230...ric-car-horror-smash.html
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Hypernova
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I just finished the novel from Michael Crichton "State of Fear". I am sure many of you participating in this thread will love this book. It is a novel and there is an interesting plot, but tthe scenario besides there are very real and important questions that are put on the table and there is a kind of debate going on in the book. Even if you have your own answers I find the whole debate well designed.
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David Autumns
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Cheers Hypernova I'll look it up.
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