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Atlantis555
Cruncher Russia Joined: Jun 18, 2010 Post Count: 32 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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What are we crunching now? The percent has freezed and doesn't go up, though tasks are given out regularly. I have a great suspicion that the project has already done all tasks and makes us recalculate'em that we don't abandon the project. Prove me wrong.
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Dark Angel
Veteran Cruncher Australia Joined: Nov 11, 2005 Post Count: 721 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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If you're going to be like that, pick another project. Nobody has to prove anything to you.
----------------------------------------The techs don't update the charts inside the last 30 odd days until a final date is CONFIRMED. At the moment we already know there will be an overlap between the CPU client use and GPU use. Since there is obviously more work (or they wouldn't bother bringing in a faster science application) it's not a huge deal to keep allocating work to the CPU client while the GPU is in alpha testing.  Currently being moderated under false pretences |
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KWSN - A Shrubbery
Master Cruncher Joined: Jan 8, 2006 Post Count: 1585 Status: Offline |
The techs have suspended projects before and started them up later. They would have zero motivation to have us "recrunch" the same work units.
----------------------------------------More likely, and has happened in many other sciences, is that they added more targets to the experiment. As DA stated, they are bringing on a GPU app soon and they would have no motivation to do so unless there were plenty more work to be had. Just wait patiently for the announcment(s). They'll update us when everything is ready.  Distributed computing volunteer since September 27, 2000 |
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Falconet
Master Cruncher Portugal Joined: Mar 9, 2009 Post Count: 3295 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Why would they make us crunch the same workunits again?
----------------------------------------Why would HCC be the only project where workunits would be re-crunched(considering HFCC has already had 2 pauses in work flow) The percentage is frozen because the chart maker(Sekerob) won't update until the official 30-day announcement is done by the techs. Not to mention that it is an unofficial guesstimate. AMD Ryzen 5 1600AF 6C/12T 3.2 GHz - 85W AMD Ryzen 5 2500U 4C/8T 2.0 GHz - 28W AMD Ryzen 7 7730U 8C/16T 3.0 GHz [Edit 1 times, last edit by Falconet at Feb 7, 2012 2:25:26 PM] |
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Atlantis555
Cruncher Russia Joined: Jun 18, 2010 Post Count: 32 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Dark Angel
----------------------------------------If you're going to be like that, pick another project. Nobody has to prove anything to you. Who are you to me, my dear crocodile, to give me such advice? If techs update nothing, it's not me have to change projects, it's the project has to change techs. Why would they make us crunch the same workunits again? I heard that SETI did so to keep its audience. [Edit 2 times, last edit by Atlantis555 at Feb 7, 2012 3:55:32 PM] |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Also heard that Google erased Atlantis from it's ocean seabed maps ;-)
----------------------------------------Before you create any rumour about any project, produce substance, thank you very much... hear say belongs in the Mail on Sunday [rumour is, Brits love reading it over crumpets and black pudding]. All active members, but you maybe, are satisfied that no result is being unduly rehashed in such cases as where a different parameter is desired for reprocessing. We already know, up front that we're going to process one project twice, at the request of the scientists, with 2 different simulation engines, first with VINA, and the second time around with AutoDock 4.2.2. and it's been approved too. --//-- Edit: P.S., I'm the one who froze the percent progress at 99.0 and 31 days for left for HCC1 btw, which has been explained to the members on several occasions. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Feb 7, 2012 4:18:36 PM] |
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Former Member
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...If techs update nothing, it's not me have to change projects, it's the project has to change techs. The projects has to change techs? Change techs on what grounds? For techs or some people failing to update the information on some chart? That doesn't seem right no matter how much, or from what angle I look at it.; |
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Dark Angel
Veteran Cruncher Australia Joined: Nov 11, 2005 Post Count: 721 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Dark Angel If you're going to be like that, pick another project. Nobody has to prove anything to you. Who are you to me, my dear crocodile, to give me such advice? If techs update nothing, it's not me have to change projects, it's the project has to change techs. The techs owe you nothing, the project owes you nothing, nobody has to prove anything to you and still you want to make demands? We are all volunteers here, none more important than the other and all replaceable. So who am I? I'm someone who's been at this distributed computing thing for a rather long time, longer than most as it happens, and someone who grows weary of little children making demands and throwing tantrums because they're not getting precisely what they want right when they want it. Currently being moderated under false pretences |
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gb009761
Master Cruncher Scotland Joined: Apr 6, 2005 Post Count: 2982 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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What are we crunching now? The percent has freezed and doesn't go up, though tasks are given out regularly. I have a great suspicion that the project has already done all tasks and makes us recalculate'em that we don't abandon the project. Prove me wrong. Atlantis555, Although you don't state as to which figures you're referring to when you say "The percent has freezed and doesn't go up", I'm assuming you're referring to the Active / Intermittent Research Dashboard SekeRob has been generating in his spare time (see here for the chart I'm referring to). Other than the conclusion you've jumped to (that WU's are being recalculated - something other posters have explained would be very unlikely to be happening, as well as putting WCG/IBM's credibility at stake), the date on the Dashboard graph is of the 31st of January at just after midday (i.e., it hasn't been updated for over a week). In another post, SekeRob has explained that, in his spare time (don't forget, Community Advisors are also volunteers who are here to help others out), he's revamping this chart - and, until that's done/this version has been refreshed, we won't know the estimated progress of the projects. As always, the only time we know the EXACT progress of a project (any project), is when it's totally complete - as the project scientists may, at any time, find new work they'd like us to crunch, thus extending a project beyond it's original end-date.  |
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johncmacalister2010@gmail.com
Veteran Cruncher Canada Joined: Nov 16, 2010 Post Count: 799 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Also heard that Google erased Atlantis from it's ocean seabed maps ;-) Before you create any rumour about any project, produce substance, thank you very much... hear say belongs in the Mail on Sunday [rumour is, Brits love reading it over crumpets and black pudding]. All active members, but you maybe, are satisfied that no result is being unduly rehashed in such cases as where a different parameter is desired for reprocessing. We already know, up front that we're going to process one project twice, at the request of the scientists, with 2 different simulation engines, first with VINA, and the second time around with AutoDock 4.2.2. and it's been approved too. --//-- Edit: P.S., I'm the one who froze the percent progress at 99.0 and 31 days for left for HCC1 btw, which has been explained to the members on several occasions. I'm just crunching away. The sentiments expressed (i.e. that we are reprocessing results to keep us on a string) are just about as repugnant to me as the thought of crumpets and black pudding!   crunching, crunching, crunching. AMD Ryzen 5 2600 6-core Processor with Windows 11 64 Pro. AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor with Windows 11 64 Pro (part time)  |
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