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gomeyer
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I don't know what happened here, but with a cache set at 0.05 my GPU machine suddenly downloaded over a week's worth of GFAM and CEP2. GPU based HCC WU's stayed at the expected number.

FWIW cache has now been reduced to 0.02 and most of those CPU WU's were aborted and returned. I'm just not sure that small cache will get my GPU over the overnight hump tho'.
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This buffer flooding does not seem to go away when GPU and CPU is mixed. If you're on a client 6, suggest you go to 7.0.31 or up. Follow this post stickied above all forums (Ignore it's W8/Mac-OS-X related): http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread_thread,33527
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. . . If you're on a client 6, suggest you go to 7.0.31 or up. . . .

I've been resisting that since I'm not crazy about the display changes they made to the newer clients. Also, it's not easy to fall back to 6.10.58; takes a de-install and re-install if I'm not mistaken.
*SIGH*
Guess I'll have to try it if I want to keep running in a mixed environment. (CPU and GPU) crying
Tks.
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Can't you just set the buffer to 0? I did so, I'm on version 6.10.58 and everything is OK. If you are doing big units (like CEP) or HPF2 (like me) ther is always a little buffer anyway.
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The Event log thing is a little getting used to, but once you get the hang, it's nice to follow on screen the action as it evolves... e.g. hit Update in the project tab, and see the log entries roll off in the second window. Exit the manager, relaunch and both windows pop up (on my test version). Yes, upgrading is fine, downgrading is not lossless... how often does one do that ;?
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@zack55. That would work of course, but I do like to keep a small cache available to allow for outages. Not much, but some. Thanks for the suggestion though.

@SekeRob. Well, for better or worse it's now been done. I've returned my cache to 0.05 and will keep an eye on it.

One good thing that I was worried about, it can still be monitored from a remote machine with both an older Boinc Manager and with the old but still handy BoincView. Cool!
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The below quote about another project, not WCG, made me think of the drowning of clients. Related or coincidence, quadrupling the WU size for measure... just FYI... we're not alone ;)
Continued server problems.
We're continuing to have issues due to a database problem early last week and a botched attempt to fix it.

The problem is that the result and host tables in the database have grown large enough, and hosts have gotten fast enough that the lookup of result in process for a host and the enumeration of new results to send don't finish before the web connection times out either on the server or the client side. This resulted in hosts being assigned large number or results to compute without the transaction that tells them about these results being completed. The host. think it received no results would then contact the server for more results, which it would again not receive.

This isn't a hardware problem. The database currently fits in memory and the processors are fast. We've just crossed a threshold where each host computes fast enough that host queues and the result table have become large enough to cause this problem. To solve it, we've put per host limits on results in process back in place. But hosts that are having this problem will probably continue to have it until the average number of results per host has fallen to a workable level. That could take weeks.

For a more permanent fix, we plan do more work in each result by quadrupling the size of the workunits. But that fix will probably take months to implement and test.

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The below quote about another project, not WCG, made me think of the drowning of clients. Related or coincidence, quadrupling the WU size for measure... just FYI... we're not alone ;)
Continued server problems.
We're continuing to have issues due to a database problem early last week and a botched attempt to fix it.

The problem is that the result and host tables in the database have grown large enough, and hosts have gotten fast enough that the lookup of result in process for a host and the enumeration of new results to send don't finish before the web connection times out either on the server or the client side. This resulted in hosts being assigned large number or results to compute without the transaction that tells them about these results being completed. The host. think it received no results would then contact the server for more results, which it would again not receive.

This isn't a hardware problem. The database currently fits in memory and the processors are fast. We've just crossed a threshold where each host computes fast enough that host queues and the result table have become large enough to cause this problem. To solve it, we've put per host limits on results in process back in place. But hosts that are having this problem will probably continue to have it until the average number of results per host has fallen to a workable level. That could take weeks.

For a more permanent fix, we plan do more work in each result by quadrupling the size of the workunits. But that fix will probably take months to implement and test.

And as neat as the quote was.... Where if anywhere is any kind of WCG/HCC statement to support this neat little snippet from 'another" Project's issues?

EDIT: Not looking to be 'anti" HCC project, see my support #s. Still hanging, still pumping what is sent. Just getting tired of all the rediculous excuses when Donor's ask.
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