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uplinger
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Updated Science Application for Help Conquer Cancer v7.08

We have recently released version 7.08 for HCC1. The only versions affected are the Mac Intel version to fix a bug with older versions of the operating system. Also, the release of Linux for GPU on ATI and NVIDIA.

Note: versions not listed above will remain at the 7.05 version number.

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Re: Updated Science Application for Help Conquer Cancer v7.08

Linux for GPU of GPU for Linux.. we read you... If this is 64 bit also, then these could be faster in the 64 bit Linux release. The CPU version for me does so compared running them in dual boot on W8.
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Overcaching of CPU-only SN2S-WUs when HCC-GPUv7.08 WUs are involved

My machine continues to encounter the overcaching issue where there is a flood of CPU-only WUs uploaded by the WGG-server to the client every time a GPU-WU is involved in a sync-session. This was an issue in Windows then, and it seems unresolved in Linux now. This issue seems to be a WCG-server issue. The server appears to be blind as to how much of a WU-workload a client can take -- probably the same blindness that causes a rush-WU to interrupt a running-WU even with that running-WU having zero seconds left to complete.

My BOINC is currently in a 'panic mode' as a result of the overcaching-issue with running-WUs all in 'Running, high-priority'. crying

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I calculated the estimated time-to-complete for my remaining WUs (which are all CPU-only WUs) and the resulting projected-date falls at least 2-days before the BOINC-indicated deadline, yet my running WUs still has the RHP ('Running high priority') status. I think that RHP is in error and while that error is in place, I can't get any more WUs even after hitting the 'Update' button several time spaced several minutes apart. crying
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Re: Overcaching of CPU-only SNS2-WUs when HCC-GPUv7.08 WUs are involved

Sorry this is a bit off topic, but had this been for Windows, for people running an app_info.xml file, how would that work? Would you duplicate the app_version section and then change every occurrence of 705 or 7.05 to 08 and leave both in the .xml file? Or would you try to clean out all of the 05's before running the 08's

Also, I assume that the 08 code would download automatically - yes?
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Re: Overcaching of CPU-only SNS2-WUs when HCC-GPUv7.08 WUs are involved

My machine continues to encounter the overcaching issue where there is a flood of CPU-only WUs uploaded by the WGG-server to the client every time a GPU-WU is involved in a sync-session. This was an issue in Windows then, and it seems unresolved in Linux now. This issue seems to be a WCG-server issue. The server appears to be blind as to how much of a WU-workload a client can take -- probably the same blindness that causes a rush-WU to interrupt a running-WU even with that running-WU having zero seconds left to complete.

My BOINC is currently in a 'panic mode' as a result of the overcaching-issue with running-WUs all in 'Running, high-priority'. crying
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You don't list the version of the client you're using but I'll wager a few cool ones that it is 6.x.xx or less.

If you have, or turn on, the flags: <sched_ops>1</sched_ops> and <sched_op_debug>1</sched_op_debug> in the cc_config.xml file you will most likely see in the Event log that everytime the client reports a task complete it asks for a few seconds of CPU work. That's why the cache loads up and everything starts running in "panic" mode.

I found 2 ways to fix the problem, 1) upgrade to version 7.0.28 or later or; 2) set the profile Workunit Cache Settings to "connect every... = 0" and "Cache = 0".

If you would like assistance on how to upgrade the Linux client post your Linux disto, current BOINC client version and how you installed it. Either myself or one of the other members will try to help.
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Re: Overcaching of CPU-only SNS2-WUs when HCC-GPUv7.08 WUs are involved

Yes, it appears I've run out of GPU WUs, for my three 7950s, running app_info.xml for 7.05 ..... I'm inclined to edit that for 7.08, yes?
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Re: Overcaching of CPU-only SNS2-WUs when HCC-GPUv7.08 WUs are involved

Yes, it appears I've run out of GPU WUs, for my three 7950s, running app_info.xml for 7.05 ..... I'm inclined to edit that for 7.08, yes?

I thought that 7.08 was for Linux and Mac, not windows? I'm seeing my cache reduced on my Windows app_info.xml controlled crunchers but what I'm seeing is a lot of are "Tasks are committed to other platforms" messages, but they are still pulling down work and I haven't seen anything in the results status that indicates I'm rejecting 7.08 tasks.
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Updated Science Application for Help Conquer Cancer v7.08 -- overcaching issue

wplachy:
Thanks for the response. I have BOINC_7.0.27 for my Ubu_12.10 and as per the BOINC-website, 7.0.26-to-7.0.28 are the same. I may try tweaking the cache-settings, if only as an interim measure. Also, the apparent 'blindness' of the WCG-servers, I feel like, should not be contingent on the client's BOINC-version used. If any server fouls up in first correctly reading a client and next serve things up to the client based on that read, any and all BOINC versions should be able to do that.A server needing to correctly read the client and serving things up to the client based on that read, in my view, is a fundamental capability that should not be compromised across BOINC-versions.
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Re: Overcaching of CPU-only SNS2-WUs when HCC-GPUv7.08 WUs are involved

Yes, it appears I've run out of GPU WUs, for my three 7950s, running app_info.xml for 7.05 ..... I'm inclined to edit that for 7.08, yes?

I thought that 7.08 was for Linux and Mac, not windows? I'm seeing my cache reduced on my Windows app_info.xml controlled crunchers but what I'm seeing is a lot of are "Tasks are committed to other platforms" messages, but they are still pulling down work and I haven't seen anything in the results status that indicates I'm rejecting 7.08 tasks.

It *is* GPU 7.08 for Linux and 7.08 CPU for Mac. There's no GPU-Mac yet. The tasks have no specific application version **, the work is a pool. The science application is independent of that. Rest assured that the server wont be trying to send your windows machine a 7.08 application. :D

My Linux machine is still processing pulling new HCC1 for 7.05 [a 64 bit build btw], last one 12 minutes ago . For a moment I thought that the techs wanted the GPU and CPU to have the same version number as what they did on Windows [something to do with deleting and re-fetching the science app [mostly for repair assignments]. The 7.0.xx client does not really care... it's a 6.xx problem.

As for the cache overrun, I posted about this, search and thou shall find, the reason why the mothership project found it necessary to size up the tasks 4 fold, yes 4 fold. The description is, that [old?] clients are deemed too fast, so serial requests are not synching with the server. The mitigation is to get the latest stable. 7.0.38/38 from the Locutusofborg ppa has been doing well for me on Ubuntu. Not seen any overcaching in any form, yet. Of course, 0.0 on MinB/MaxAB works fine too. The 7.0.xx client is at that setting trained to still request minimal work prior to a task finishing, so it does not have idle cores even for a second.

edit: ** only check that is done is, that if copy _0 goes to a version A+platform X, the wingman also goes to version A+platform X. Client 6 did not know science app distiction, just takes the latest, where client 7 does.
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Re: Overcaching of CPU-only SNS2-WUs when HCC-GPUv7.08 WUs are involved

Yes, it appears I've run out of GPU WUs, for my three 7950s, running app_info.xml for 7.05 ..... I'm inclined to edit that for 7.08, yes?


If you are running wins, no. I still have cache of 400 WU's (running Win 7 64, 7.0.36 and app info).
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