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Rick A. Sponholz
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To the WCG Admins,
----------------------------------------I've been running BOINC and it's predecessor SETI@home, for over 13 years. There seems to be a significant diffrence between the credit I get from WCG, and other projects with the same resource share, such as Asteroinds@Home, and Rosetta@Home. This is despite WCG using GPU's and CPU's. I know I'd increase my WCG resource share, if I got credit equal to that of other projects. Just a thought for your consideration. I'd love it if you posted a reply explaining why. Thanks for your time, Rick ![]() |
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Former Member
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WCG uses a 'fair' credit system, the other are over inflated to grab crunchers away from really useful projects so they will crunch useless ones!
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Falconet
Master Cruncher Portugal Joined: Mar 9, 2009 Post Count: 3295 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Doesn't WCG use the "new credit" system that the BOINC developers created?
----------------------------------------I believe SETI@home uses the same system. AMD Ryzen 5 1600AF 6C/12T 3.2 GHz - 85W AMD Ryzen 5 2500U 4C/8T 2.0 GHz - 28W AMD Ryzen 7 7730U 8C/16T 3.0 GHz |
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Rick A. Sponholz
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I respect your opinion that WCG's credit system is correct, and everyone elses is wrong, but another possibility is, everyone else conforms to a standard, and WCG's is deflated.
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Sgt.Joe
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Sgt. Joe
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BladeD
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There have been many discussions about this. Maybe someone will post a link or two.
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Rick A. Sponholz
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If I'm reading the chart correctly, it validates what my point. WCG's credit for equal computer time donated, is less than almost all other projects. Rick
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Sgt.Joe
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All the points anyone has won't buy them a cup of coffee. The points are useful for comparison purposes but they are not the reason I crunch.
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gomeyer
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Competition has been a very valuable part of attracting and keeping crunchers since the early days of volunteer distributed computing. But, as Scribe mentioned above, some project admins are offering ridiculous credits to attract users. Points become worthless when that happens and I’m happy WCG isn’t falling into the quagmire.
----------------------------------------Having said that however, I would like to suggest that increasing WCG’s BOINC credit to a reasonable degreee would almost certainly increase participation here. My understanding is that Dr. Anderson of BOINC fame has always strongly encouraged projects to stay within certain guidelines regarding points. SETI@Home has therefore always done so and could be used as a model IMO. Some people are crunching mainly to help humanity while others are in it for the competition. Both viewpoints are perfectly valid. Why not go after the points people in a reasonable way. (BTW, I can think of three possible negatives to this. IBM might have to invest in many new servers to handle the load, the admins here would see their workload increase, and we would all have to fight harder to get badges before projects are quickly completed. Uhh. . . on second thought lets keep things as they are.) ![]() ![]() [Edit 2 times, last edit by gomeyer at Mar 23, 2013 2:10:39 AM] |
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johncmacalister2010@gmail.com
Veteran Cruncher Canada Joined: Nov 16, 2010 Post Count: 799 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
To the WCG Admins, I've been running BOINC and it's predecessor SETI@home, for over 13 years. There seems to be a significant diffrence between the credit I get from WCG, and other projects with the same resource share, such as Asteroinds@Home, and Rosetta@Home. This is despite WCG using GPU's and CPU's. I know I'd increase my WCG resource share, if I got credit equal to that of other projects. Just a thought for your consideration. I'd love it if you posted a reply explaining why. Thanks for your time, Rick Why does one crunch - points/credits or contributing to humanitarian/medical problem solutions? I crunch for the latter: points/credits are nice, but not the bottom line. ![]() crunching, crunching, crunching. AMD Ryzen 5 2600 6-core Processor with Windows 11 64 Pro. AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor with Windows 11 64 Pro (part time) ![]() [Edit 1 times, last edit by John C MacAlister at Mar 23, 2013 3:33:36 AM] |
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