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warlord420
Cruncher Joined: Dec 28, 2010 Post Count: 4 Status: Offline |
Hi all,
----------------------------------------I had question regarding badges. How fast is the "processing speed " of the processing time of the badges? Is it an standardized way of measuring? Two computers , one running at 1 Pflops and 1 at Gflops running for an hour have factor 1000/second diffidence. So where does the performance of the project run lie? Thanks.
2500k @ 5 Ghz TCEP x4!
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toss
Senior Cruncher New Zealand Joined: Jan 3, 2007 Post Count: 220 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Speed is irrelevant to badges
Calculated on clock time |
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branjo
Master Cruncher Slovakia Joined: Jun 29, 2012 Post Count: 1892 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Hi warlord420,
----------------------------------------As toss mentioned, the CPU speed is irrelevant to badges, but the numbers of cores/threads in CPU are: - If you run 100%, 24/7 on 24-cores' CPU (regardless on its speed) your daily gain will be 24 (CPU) days (i.e. app. 1 calendar month for Sapphire Badge). - If you run old 2-cores' CPU 100%, 24/7, your daily gain will be only 2 days (i.e. app. 1 calendar year for Sapphire Badge). The speed is projected in points - the faster/better CPU you have, the more points you will earn. But w/o influence on your badges  Cheers   Crunching@Home since January 13 2000. Shrubbing@Home since January 5 2006  |
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Former Member
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...badges are for CPU time, not clock time which can be much longer
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twilyth
Master Cruncher US Joined: Mar 30, 2007 Post Count: 2130 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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As branjo said, points are probably the best way to judge overall project performance but since the number of points allocated can vary widely - as pointed out in Movieman's thread here , for some purposes you may instead want to focus on the number of work units completed per day.
----------------------------------------This won't tell you anything of value for any particular user since the time to complete a wu can vary wildly between individual science projects and since some people tend to focus on only one project. But for WCG as a whole, between introductions of new projects, it might be a better indicator depending on what you're trying to guage.   |
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branjo
Master Cruncher Slovakia Joined: Jun 29, 2012 Post Count: 1892 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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As branjo said, points are probably the best way to judge overall project performance ... I have never said something like this. I have just said, that stronger CPU's will generate more points (OK, probably also FLOPS, thus performance), and probably more run-time. Do you really think I have done the better work for HCMD2 in which I have earned 1.8 MM points for 180 days run-time, than on HPF2 in which I earned slightly less points (1.78 MM) for 1 year run-time? And in HPF2 I have used stronger/better/faster CPU's than in HCMD2. Based on your ("more-points-better-performance") logic, my worse CPU's were better performer in this micro-battle and generated more FLOP's (slightly) and FLOPS (significantly - more than double  ). BS IMHO  Such projects/sub-projects with inflated points/credits are exactly the reason why I like WCG's system of badges. The people who crunched 6-7 years ago on (in that time) top-end CPU's would be never able to compare to current ones using even mid- or low-end CPU's in terms of points. Do somebody really thinks they have contributed less to the mankind than we do? ETA one "MM" Crunching@Home since January 13 2000. Shrubbing@Home since January 5 2006 [Edit 3 times, last edit by branjo at Apr 4, 2014 8:29:52 PM] |
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twilyth
Master Cruncher US Joined: Mar 30, 2007 Post Count: 2130 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Sorry if I misunderstood this "The speed is projected in points - the faster/better CPU you have, the more points you will earn. But w/o influence on your badges wink " to mean that you thought overall points was the best measure of WCG performance.
----------------------------------------Personally I agree with that if we're talking about WCG as a whole, but whatever. There's no need to get all hot and bothered about it though. It was an honest mistake - unless you know want to accuse me of deliberately misconstruing. |
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