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Thread: 2018 CPU Releases: 12nm AMD Ryzen+ (Pinnacle Ridge) and 10nm Intel Core (Cannon Lake/Ice Lake) |
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hchc
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Aug 15, 2006 Post Count: 796 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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AMD is refreshing the Zen architecture (still using the AM4 socket!) with a 12nm process that will hopefully bring us better power efficiency and higher clock rates.
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Meanwhile, Intel keeps delaying their 10nm releases. First, Cannon Lake was supposed to debut in late 2017. Then early 2018. Then mid-2018. Now I'm seeing articles that say Cannon Lake may not be released until late 2018, followed shortly by Ice Lake.
I've been playing the waiting game for too long. Here's hoping 2018 has lots of juicy choices for all of us. 
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hchc
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Aug 15, 2006 Post Count: 796 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Intel's 10nm Is Broken, Delayed Until 2019
----------------------------------------Oops. Intel is really falling behind schedule several years. Wow.
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Former Member
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The ryzen 1000 series has been good to me with my 1700. If you are waiting to build/purchase a new machine, definitely look into them. Now that the 2000 series is out, you may be able to save some money on a 1000 series. The 2000 series has integrated graphics (not sure which or all models) so no need for dedicated graphics if you are like me and don't do any gaming.
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Macromancer
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I went to Micro Center in Atlanta this weekend. They are selling the Ryzen 5 1600 for $149, which is an incredible value, in my view. I've been running a Ryzen 5 1600 CPU nonstop since Oct 2017 with zero issues, so they definitely are up to the task of serious number crunching.
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Former Member
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I went to Micro Center in Atlanta this weekend. They are selling the Ryzen 5 1600 for $149, which is an incredible value, in my view. I've been running a Ryzen 5 1600 CPU nonstop since Oct 2017 with zero issues, so they definitely are up to the task of serious number crunching. I agree. I have the 1700 and it is great. 8 cores/16 threads for $250 (back in august 2017) been running 24/7 since that time. I have seen the 1700 for as low as 199 at microcenter, but that was black friday type pricing I think. Usually they can be found for 219-229 fairly easily. |
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8c/16t @ 4.35Ghz, oh baby, Intel are going to have to work pretty hard to get my money again, the Zen refresh is giving us some top notch performance for not a lot of money, 2700x inbound this week.....figures for running Ubuntu to follow, watch this space.
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Jack007
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yeah I wanna get that one too I think. was gonna cheap out on the 6 core, but hey WCG is all about the cores.
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yeah I wanna get that one too I think. was gonna cheap out on the 6 core, but hey WCG is all about the cores. To be honest the 6 core is far from shabby when it comes to WCG, i'm running a R5 1600 under Ubuntu and that averages around 90-95k points per day and considering the price the return is remarkable. |
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Jim1348
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I have both a Ryzen 1700 (Ubuntu 16.04) and a Coffee Lake i7-8700 (Ubuntu 18.04) and a couple of Haswells (Ubuntu 16.04) The Ryzen is probably better on WCG. It also does very well on LHC, Universe, Einstein and most other projects, better than my Haswells (i7-4770 and i7-4790) per core, and with more cores, probably a little better than the Coffee Lake.
There are a few exceptions however. On Rosetta, the Ryzen has more errors and much less consistent output than my Haswells (I am doing a Coffee Lake test run now.) And on Folding CPU work, the i7-8700 is great with 12 cores, giving an output approximately twice as much as my Ryzen on 16 cores. So it just depends on what the application is tuned for. That is, some can make use of more cores better, and some can't. Also, there is the usual difference in compilers between AMD and Intel, and one or the other usually does a little better on any given application or OS. Overall, I am trending to AMD for my future builds, but if you really want to know, you have to try them on a given project. |
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