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TPCBF
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Doctor Jurasica, IMHO, this is a pretty stupid idea that would just cater to all those point *****s...How about double points for a few weeks once the work servers are running to help make up the downtime?? Any resource should be much better be used to fix outstanding problems, like the not properly working validator (which didn't get fixed for about 3 weeks BEFORE the meltdown) or on catching up with the missing stats from June though Sept 28th 2022... Ralf ![]() [Edit 1 times, last edit by Cyclops at Mar 20, 2023 2:44:25 PM] |
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shauge
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Can we get a status update of the recovery?
----------------------------------------I look at twitter for updates and this is the last update I see from the 10th of March: Update: The storage server was revived yesterday late afternoon. Both database filesystems mounted as before, but the science filesystem did not. It needs a repair; erasing the old log first. ![]() [Edit 1 times, last edit by shauge at Mar 20, 2023 10:27:59 AM] |
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Grumpy Swede
Master Cruncher Svíþjóð Joined: Apr 10, 2020 Post Count: 2167 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Doctor Jurasica, IMHO, this is a pretty stupid idea that would just cater to all those point whores...How about double points for a few weeks once the work servers are running to help make up the downtime?? Any resource should be much better be used to fix outstanding problems, like the not properly working validator (which didn't get fixed for about 3 weeks BEFORE the meltdown) or on catching up with the missing stats from June though Sept 28th 2022... Ralf |
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adrianxw
Senior Cruncher Denmark Joined: Apr 13, 2008 Post Count: 192 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
+ Another one.
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Greg_BE
Advanced Cruncher Joined: May 9, 2016 Post Count: 82 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
It's almost time to remove this project and find another one to take its place.
----------------------------------------Meltdown entering how many weeks now? What happens after the meltdown? More bugs and delays? What is happening to the research of the projects that depend on this group to distribute their science needs? It's almost time for them to break out on their own here on BOINC. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Greg_BE at Mar 20, 2023 12:07:28 PM] |
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Falconet
Master Cruncher Portugal Joined: Mar 9, 2009 Post Count: 3295 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
My assumption has been that WCG just needs to be at the same level of technology and expertise that it was when IBM ran the show, so that would be the plan, the 'business vision' you rightly expect. I'm sorry to have to disagree, since the provided statement is not a business plan. I would never start an investment project with such a limited statement. When I ask for a quantified business plan, I mean at least:
Based on the 2022 communication, I guessed that Krembil inherited the WCG hardware and software platform from IBM. The messages of the last days show finally a totally different reality. Without knowing the exact reality, without knowing what is effectively needed, without being able to calculate how much human, financial, technical (i.e. expertise and knowledge) resources are required, it is not reasonable to go ahead since the troubles will recurrently occur and the contributors will become tired by the troubles. I would prefer to experience a stop now and that Krembil takes time to honestly assess if a reliable solution is reachable.
In all cases, the current situation is highly disappointing and disturbing. Cheers, Yves It was always clear that WCG transitioned from the IBM cloud to their own servers. At least it was to me. AMD Ryzen 5 1600AF 6C/12T 3.2 GHz - 85W AMD Ryzen 5 2500U 4C/8T 2.0 GHz - 28W AMD Ryzen 7 7730U 8C/16T 3.0 GHz |
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Mike.Gibson
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I never expected the hardware to be shifted to Toronto. Software - yes, but changing from Cloud storage would require re-configuration of the software.
Academia is notoriously always short of funding and personnel so taking on WCG was a massive undertaking for Krembil. At least they did, for which we are grateful. I am sure they didn't know how much they were taking on, hence the length of time it has taken to get this far. Since then, they will have been operating on a shoestring and have been running everything flat out so it is not surprising that equipment failures occur. They need our support - crunching, financial and emotional! Mike |
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Grumpy Swede
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Well, WCG crunching have been down for this long:
----------------------------------------Last update host XML 2023-02-28 13:11:22 UTC (19 days 18:29:03 old) Last update user XML 2023-03-01 01:21:01 UTC (19 days 06:19:24 old) Last update team XML 2023-03-01 01:21:01 UTC (19 days 06:19:24 old) [Edit 1 times, last edit by Grumpy Swede at Mar 20, 2023 2:32:30 PM] |
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Cyclops
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Can we get a status update of the recovery? I look at twitter for updates and this is the last update I see from the 10th of March: Update: The storage server was revived yesterday late afternoon. Both database filesystems mounted as before, but the science filesystem did not. It needs a repair; erasing the old log first. Hi shauge, we are working on the issue and will provide another update when we have substantial news to share. Thanks for your patience. |
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deltavee
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Goodbye everyone.
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