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Grumpy Swede
Master Cruncher Svíþjóð Joined: Apr 10, 2020 Post Count: 2169 Status: Recently Active Project Badges: 
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Not easy to read anything, now that the whole site is in such a bad shape.
----------------------------------------It's 503 errors, System Errors, and an incredibly laggy site now. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Grumpy Swede at Feb 14, 2024 7:45:02 PM] |
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gj82854
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Coincident with new OPG work?
----------------------------------------Wait until ARP work starts.... That will probably be a nightmare [Edit 1 times, last edit by gj82854 at Feb 15, 2024 3:28:48 PM] |
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Unixchick
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ARP coming back will be bumpy as we all grab for them, but should be ok once we have our caches full. ARPs take a while to do. I did have website problems yesterday, but today is fine.
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Mike.Gibson
Ace Cruncher England Joined: Aug 23, 2007 Post Count: 12372 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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If they don't ration ARP when it is ready for a few days the system will probably collapse.
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gj82854
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It's the 60M of data coming back once all those WUs start ending that concerns me.
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dchhbfx
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hello
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hchc
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Aug 15, 2006 Post Count: 801 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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@gj82854
----------------------------------------gopherit here. I thought your username was familiar! I remember David Anderson years ago being a jerk on some other issues, but I just can't remember what. It doesn't surprise me that I'm reminded again just how asinine he is. I learned decades ago in programming class not to hard-code numbers in my code. It's strange to see someone cling to such a poor practice. It truly makes me want to fork the BOINC project and learn how to just build my own version and release it to the world as something better. I just wish it didn't have to come down to that, honestly.
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gj82854
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hchc,
I hate to say it but I think David Anderson is the reason BOINC is losing participation. He is like an old mainframe programmer that doesn't want to change to keep up with today's technology. Like I stated in the incident record, they have lost touch with what is happening out in the BOINC ecosystem. I believe they think it is just you and I who want the change but contributors have been asking for it since at least 2015 if not before. I would suspect that there are a lot of contributors who have quietly compilied their own client with the requested change. What we have now is a free-for-all. It seems infinitely better to me to have a controlling authority make the change so there less "hacked" clients. Their hangup seems to be the rogue work fetch possibility but with many contributors already running hacked clients (because they won't make the change) it has become a problem anyway. Ask PrimeGrid where they had a user download about 40,000 work units on 8 core machine. They aren't protecting anything. I think BOINC is becoming a dinosaur and I keep looking for ways to contribute my hardware capabilities to projects in another way. David Anderson mentioned that there are a number of linear algorithms that cause increased CPU usage with an increase in the number of WUs. I compiled the client with the value increased 5 fold and saw very little additional CPU usage as result (once again, his reasons have no basis in fact). But even if that were true, why not spend time fixing the algorithms instead of putting in that stupid Sporadic Apps code. He seems to think that client to client communication is OK. Do you want other peoples clients communicating with your client? Those that use firewalls are going to have a real nightmare with that unless it is limited to a single port and some aren't going to go along with it all. All that on top of platform that even he admits has issues. The devil will be in the details as they say. Now see what you've done? You got me started again. I thought I was over yesterdays debate. LOL |
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