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Could it be that slow machines receive too many points?

New machine, first result:

Runtime: 1:21:54:37 -- 503 points.

That's more than 260 points per day. And the machine is:

300MHz P2 -- CPU score 31
192MB of RAM -- Memory score 50
9.77 GB on HD (10GB in profile) -- Storage score 196
NE2000 comp. -- network score 100

The machine gets a CPU score of 31 against a 1.5GHz P4 which has not
only five times the speed but is also two Pentium generations advanced.

Even more astoundingly the overall score is 64! What does that mean for
the reference machine with score 100 -- is the benchmark bogus??

This machine is CRAP and gets 260 points per day while one of my 2.4GHz
P4 with 512MB (rest scores as above) gets overall score of 134 (about twice
the crap machine) and gets a little over 600 points a day. Does this make
sense?? Is the "many slow machines" even more superior to a few
big screemers than we thought? I will switch the 2.4GHz machine's
client to service mode now -- maybe that squeezes out some more
points...

PS: yes, both machines are only crunching currently, no disturbing tasks
anywhere.


Best, Stefan.
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Re: Could it be that slow machines receive too many points?

That is possible. Points are given based on the amount of "effort" needed to process a workunit. My slowest machine once took 13 days to process a Rosetta, and got a bazillion points.

My fastest machine sent in 5 units yesterday, and got "not much", but that's 5 units.

The slow machine will accumulate more because it can do pure crunching with fewer interruptions to connect. CPU time is not determined by the CPU, but by the clock.

About all you can do is to turn off the WCG screensaver and operate with (none) to give more power to the crunch.
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Re: Could it be that slow machines receive too many points?

You theory is kind of correct on points but the main goal is results...Due to how UD is set-up at WCG you can only really change two variables, the cpu and the memory score,,,The network is a given for everyone (100) and most people have the storage set to 10 gig (196)....You receive 260 points a day for you slow machine and a little over double for your faster machine...But while the slow machine took 2 days to complete one work unit I am positive that the faster machine did at least 6 in that time frame....Points are for fun, results are why we crunch.... cool
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Re: Could it be that slow machines receive too many points?

Points must be a mechanism and reward for keeping slow machines out of the landfill and extending their usefullness, however strained. I have two like that crunching elsewhere, generating one result every day or two, each. My fastest machine is HERE...with those 5 results yesterday with 592 points total, approximately 120 points per workunit.

A P2/400 here took 13 days to process one of the nastier Rosettas, but got about 4,900 points for it.
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Re: Could it be that slow machines receive too many points?

sells his rigs and downgrades to P2's laughing
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Re: Could it be that slow machines receive too many points?

come to think of it..........

sells his rigs and downgrades to P4's........ laughing laughing laughing tongue
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Re: Could it be that slow machines receive too many points?

Vaio wrote:
sells his rigs and downgrades to P2's laughing

This from the same man who tried to overclock his toaster....... laughing
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Re: Could it be that slow machines receive too many points?

And how can overclocking a toaster do any good? I don't eat toast anyways... biggrin
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They lie...........was not a toaster.......was a vacuum cleaner laughing
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