I'll RACE with you

Please drop in for a BBQ when you are passing by! Great work!

This thread could be useful to you.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=113738

As far as the thread shows, the team started hard working on WCG. This challenges you guys and I hope they would become this grid more active :)

I think what you are seeing is firepower, plain and simple. I like the fact that WCG counts results, too. My motto is crunch the units and the points will follow. I have no idea what my machines' total GHz is, but I do know that my power bill tells me that there is a whole bunch of crunchin' going on.

I kind of rue (<<??) the day I ever ventured into the Rosetta forums. I almost feel that way about Rosetta, period. Rarely, have I been so insulted by a bunch of anal, get-a-life-will-ya, goodfor-nothing-really idots. I've been involved in three other DC projects ( UD, FaD and D2OL ) other than Rosey. I've always poured my all into each of them. I crunch for deeply personal reasons, but I'd be lying if I said I don't get into the team-building and competitive aspect of it, also.

I reached 150th in UD before I became disillusioned with the management and direction of the project. I then turned to FaD and reached 5th overall, before its' unfortunate ending. Then I went to 36th in D2OL, before my team, as a group decided to move on. When I left Rosey I was in 14th place. Kind of fits a pattern, eh? If it was up to some of those nitwit ZeroRACers, I suppose I'd be accused of cheating in those other three projects, for the life of me I wouldn't know how, but I'm sure they'd love to find a way. Funny thing about it is I don't see how someone who's contribution to a project almost totally is pot-stirrin, can profess to care about a project. What I find amazing and totally arrogant is someone proclaiming themselves to be concerned about a project and then run like five or ten results, total, over a period of months in that project. And then have the gall to attack people who crunch 24/7 with large investments in electricity and hardware.
I do not see them putting their money where their mouth is. I mean I saw people with, like, a RAC of 6 acting as if they really cared about Rosetta. Give me a break! Nobody is saying you have to run a slew of computers and have a RAC in the thousands, or that those who do are anymore important then anyone else. But at least give the project that you profess to love more than a day or two's worth of crunching, for God's sake.The way I see it, they had an agenda, that is all, plain and simple. My belief is it was to do to Rosey what they have done to other projects, and then sit there in their little fiefdom of charts, arrogance and self-righteousness and say to themselves, "we showed them!"

They can have their little circle**** and tell themselves how awesome they are. I don't want to be anywhere near them.

It is kind of a shame really. They drove out some people who are incredibly caring, driven, dedicated crunchers. From many teams. That project has some good science going on. Too bad that the administration and project leaders/developers didn't rein in the loud troublemakers and muckrakers.

At least there are a few other worthy medical projects, such as this one. Rosetta isn't the only "game in town".

Scott

We have a good community going on here. We've had our ups and downs, but the WCG staff take a much closer interest in what's going on than any other crunching project I've even come across. Some projects just don't care, while other projects are run directly by the project scientists, and they simply don't have time to get deeply involved. But the WCG staff are working on this full time, and while they save their comments for when they are needed most, they still frequently lurk on the forums and are quick to respond when they are needed.

And (not to blow my own trumpet too much) there are the Community Advisors. Sometimes I feel like the man in the middle; pushing the members' agenda on WCG, and trying to get things done, changed and improved, while also trying to explain the WCG decisions to the members. We don't have complete access, but we do have better access than the average member. You tell me: are we doing a good job?

Optimised clients worry me because they tend to polarise people: those that see it as no problem, and those that see it as cheating (not to mention those few scumbags who deliberately use tools to cheat). So, since there is no optimised science applications for WCG projects, personally I would be happier if people used a calibrating client or the standard client. That way, the people who genuinely manage to contribute more get properly rewarded.

(By the way, you got "rue" 100% right.) I'm feeling slow today: what's RAC?