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A WONDERFUL NEW YEAR TO EVERYBODY!!! @Dataman Stefan, good job. ![]() ![]() Thank you! Yes, brought up one more machine (very old, has no real function) which had silently crashed with a hard disk problem -- now in operation again. @blizzie et al. who do/intend overclocking: OC thought 1: ========= It is not advised to do over-clocking (neither main processor or graphics processor) with PASSIVE cooling (heat sink only), you should ALWAYS do ACTIVE cooling (sink with fan or sink with liquid cooling). Some companies (and OC freaks) suggest fancy passive heat sinks that put your hardware to risk. OC thought 2: ========= I think without thorough checking of fault handling in WCG the use of over-clocked CPUs for crunching is irresponsible! If you operate CPUs outside their specification (speed and/or temperature) then errors CAN and DO occur! So this usually is only done for gaming and other "unimportant" tasks. I'm not sure if every result is "validated" by sending each WU out more than once -- if not, positive results can be missed!! If a result is reported as "positive" (whatever that means for a given project) it is checked again but if a result is (falsely!) reported "negative" (although it possibly contains an epoch making find) it may be lost to the community!! Same is valid for heat and memory -- blizzie, do you operate that Zephyr machine without a case?? I often see that and people who see these pictures might think that cooling is even improved this way. Don't be fooled by that idea -- cases are designed to create an optimal air-flow driven by the fans. Operating a naked motherboard reduces the risk of heat building up as result of a fan failure but actually reduces cooling in normal operation as you lose the air flow for the complete mobo. RAM chips have a rather low temperature at which they begin to produce errors and not every mobo uses ECC (memory error correction method). So please use over-clocking (and cooling) in a responsible way and check back with the WCG programmers if false negatives can cause a problem. If so, it's not worth it -- given in first place we crunch for cures and not for points. Best regards, Stefan. Happy New Years to you. =) My main computer has a Thermaltake V1 heatsink on it. Room temp - 70 F Idle - 24 C Crunching 100% load - 52 C "in my table" and 46 C out on the floor Yes my Quad core is indeed caseless. And yes I know the temperatures are worst like that. G0 stepping Quad Cores have a thermal limit of 71 C. My Quad Core crunches with CPU temp of no higher than 55 C on all 4 cores. This computer is not overclocked and it has the stock heatsink. I have a fan on top of my RAM, keeping it cool and air from it reaches the northbridge and southbridge, also keep it moderately cool. Until I get a better motherboard (DFI Blood Iron for $105 and a Tuniq Tower CPU Cooler for $45) I cannnot overclock the Quad) Every result that is sent back is validated. I check daily to make sure I don't have work units that Errored out or Invalid ones. Here's one of my stress tests for proof. http://files.blizzie.com/2007-12-24-09h22-CPU1.png http://files.blizzie.com/2007-12-24-09h22-CPU2.png http://files.blizzie.com/3.6.png CPU-Z Validation http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=285695 I'm crunching for speed. To get more results out for research. Aeon isn't used solely for crunching but my Quad is. Trust me, I know what I'm doing. ![]() ![]() Thanks for caring though. ![]() |
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Happy New Year to all at MOT
![]() Keith - Have you come up with a target for this year yet? Yes my Quad core is indeed caseless. And yes I know the temperatures are worst like that. G0 stepping Quad Cores have a thermal limit of 71 C. My Quad Core crunches with CPU temp of no higher than 55 C on all 4 cores. This computer is not overclocked and it has the stock heatsink. I have a fan on top of my RAM, keeping it cool and air from it reaches the northbridge and southbridge, also keep it moderately cool. Until I get a better motherboard (DFI Blood Iron for $105 and a Tuniq Tower CPU Cooler for $45) I cannnot overclock the Quad) Every result that is sent back is validated. I check daily to make sure I don't have work units that Errored out or Invalid ones. Here's one of my stress tests for proof. http://files.blizzie.com/2007-12-24-09h22-CPU1.png http://files.blizzie.com/2007-12-24-09h22-CPU2.png http://files.blizzie.com/3.6.png CPU-Z Validation http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=285695 I'm crunching for speed. To get more results out for research. Aeon isn't used solely for crunching but my Quad is. Trust me, I know what I'm doing. ![]() ![]() Thanks for caring though. ![]() I have a few Q6600 GO's crunching away OC'd at 3.4GHz on air (Asus P5K + Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme coolers) nice and stable and never go above 50C - you should see the speed them WU's crunch! ![]() I've also used the Tuniq Tower - but to be honest I'm finding the TR Ultra's better. Either way, good luck with it Blizzie ![]() |
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Happy New Year to all at MOT ![]() Keith - Have you come up with a target for this year yet? Yes my Quad core is indeed caseless. And yes I know the temperatures are worst like that. G0 stepping Quad Cores have a thermal limit of 71 C. My Quad Core crunches with CPU temp of no higher than 55 C on all 4 cores. This computer is not overclocked and it has the stock heatsink. I have a fan on top of my RAM, keeping it cool and air from it reaches the northbridge and southbridge, also keep it moderately cool. Until I get a better motherboard (DFI Blood Iron for $105 and a Tuniq Tower CPU Cooler for $45) I cannnot overclock the Quad) Every result that is sent back is validated. I check daily to make sure I don't have work units that Errored out or Invalid ones. Here's one of my stress tests for proof. http://files.blizzie.com/2007-12-24-09h22-CPU1.png http://files.blizzie.com/2007-12-24-09h22-CPU2.png http://files.blizzie.com/3.6.png CPU-Z Validation http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=285695 I'm crunching for speed. To get more results out for research. Aeon isn't used solely for crunching but my Quad is. Trust me, I know what I'm doing. ![]() ![]() Thanks for caring though. ![]() I have a few Q6600 GO's crunching away OC'd at 3.4GHz on air (Asus P5K + Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme coolers) nice and stable and never go above 50C - you should see the speed them WU's crunch! ![]() I've also used the Tuniq Tower - but to be honest I'm finding the TR Ultra's better. Either way, good luck with it Blizzie ![]() Yup the Ultra 120 Extremes are very nice. But it's $60 + $15 fan. A bit expensive. ![]() I don't think I'll be buying any more parts though.. Maybe if it goes on sale or something; leaving for college and I can't bring my desktops with me. ![]() |
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Sadly cost is always a barrier
![]() The TT will be fine Blizzie - hope you find a bargain somewhere ![]() |
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keithhenry
Ace Cruncher Senile old farts of the world ....uh.....uh..... nevermind Joined: Nov 18, 2004 Post Count: 18665 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Keith - Have you come up with a target for this year yet? ![]() ![]() Actually, I'm inclined to wait and see how January goes in terms of the impact of the demise of UD. If there's no big impact, I'm leaning towards 55 million - go up 10 percent basically. Now, if you'd be willing to do some hard time* ![]() *sorta like a one hand poker match, all in, everything you have ** maybe you oughtta call me Metastopholes ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by keithhenry at Jan 2, 2008 10:46:32 PM] |
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You may be old and senile keith - but you are crafty and wily enough to pull those heart strings
![]() Hmmm, for me to do 55 Million in a year I would have to average 150K a day - so its possible I guess ![]() ![]() ....and of course I didn't need to look up Metastopholes either ![]() |
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keithhenry
Ace Cruncher Senile old farts of the world ....uh.....uh..... nevermind Joined: Nov 18, 2004 Post Count: 18665 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
You may be old and senile keith - but you are crafty and wily enough to pull those heart strings ![]() Hmmm, for me to do 55 Million in a year I would have to average 150K a day - so its possible I guess ![]() ![]() ....and of course I didn't need to look up Metastopholes either ![]() DANG! You mean you actually THUNK it out? Well, at least enough to figure it was really doable....WOW..... ![]() Maybe Metastopholes IS an apt name - and here I thought it should really be PT Barnum. ![]() |
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I do like a challenge Keith, but I can never stay too long around one place - I get itchy feet...............but you can be assured I'll be helping out around here again this year
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Keith,
----------------------------------------Got your email re the POEM@HOME team, it's now yours. Enjoy! BYE! [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Jan 3, 2008 12:09:40 AM] |
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You may be old and senile keith - but you are crafty and wily enough to pull those heart strings ![]() Hmmm, for me to do 55 Million in a year I would have to average 150K a day - so its possible I guess ![]() ![]() ....and of course I didn't need to look up Metastopholes either ![]() Jeez. ![]() ![]() I really need to overclock my Quad. I can't afford to spend $170 more though. ![]() ![]() |
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