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and after todays CET update only 1890 stands in the way of the coldest December recorded, in the last 352 Decembers.

Looking at Metcheck.com it looks like only the last 3 days of the Month will be at anything approaching "normal" temps

Roll on January wink

Attempting to travel North for Christmas tomorrow using the train service

Wish me luck

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NASA Researchers Publish New Evidence against Dangerous Global Warming
by E. Calvin Beisner, Ph.D.
Founder and National Spokesman
Cornwall Alliance

Inconveniently coming at the same time as the United Nations climate change summit conference in Cancun, new evidence was published last week that further supports the view that Earth’s climate system is robust and there is little danger from manmade global warming.

Global warming alarmists believe doubled atmospheric carbon dioxide would raise “global average temperature” by about 3.0° C, the midrange hypothesis of models used by the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and the basis of most legislative and international negotiating efforts to reduce CO2 emissions.

Computer climate models underlying that and similar estimates all assume overall climate feedbacks are strongly positive, multiplying the roughly 1.2° C of pre-feedbacks warming by 250 percent.

But other researchers (e.g., John Christy, Roy Spencer, Richard Lindzen, and Stephen Schwartz ), finding that clouds’ response to surface warming is strongly negative, have tended to estimate “climate sensitivity” (change in “global average temperature” from doubled CO2, after feedbacks) at about 0.5° C instead—about 58 percent lower than pre-feedbacks warming and 83 percent lower than the IPCC’s central estimate of 3° C.

Now a research group at the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) has published, in Geophysical Research Letters, results of its study of another feedback, green plant growth.

Explaining that plants grow more efficiently in a higher-CO2 atmosphere, resulting in more dense vegetation, which has a cooling effect, researchers Lahouari Bounoua and and colleagues estimate “climate sensitivity” at about 1.64° C—which is 45 percent lower than the IPCC’s central estimate. That amount of warming, like the 0.5° C estimated by Christy, Spencer, and others, would have overall beneficial rather than harmful effects, removing any need to reduce CO2 emissions.

The Bounoua team’s estimate of 1.64° C doesn’t take into account the cloud researchers’ findings and would need to be adjusted downward in their light.

Such discoveries reinforce the Christian belief that Earth is the product of intelligent design. High “climate sensitivity” and a consequently chaotic, unstable climate system is less consistent with this belief than low “climate sensitivity” and a consequently stable, self-regulating climate system. “O Yahweh, how many are Your works! In wisdom You have made them all!” (Psalm 104:24).

University of Delaware climatologist David Legates explains the overall case against global warming alarmism in his lecture “Putting Out the Dragon’s Fire on Global Warming” in the Cornwall Alliance’s twelve-part DVD series Resisting the Green Dragon, available here and designed for use in Sunday schools, small groups, home schools, and private schools and colleges. Roy Spencer, Legates, and co-authors make the case in more detail in Cornwall’s Renewed Call toTruth, Prudence, and Protection of the Poor: An Evangelical Examination of the Theology, Science, and Economics of Global Warming.
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Dave, pack for a slow journey and hope Yahweh is the engineer.
Good Luck
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Thanks skgiven

talking of tremors (last night Cumbria) What is happening in the Bonin Islands !

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_big.php


marysduby you know I have always had faith in the great design. I once came across a gravity based flash dodar on t'internet. A simple task, place "planets" around a "sun" was well nigh on impossible to get a stable orbit with the interactions. Planets pitched into the Sun. Planets hurled into outer space absolute nightmare. It takes a steady hand to create that stable equilibrium, and yet here we are

I found it it's here http://dan-ball.jp/en/javagame/planet/
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Thanks skgiven

talking of tremors (last night Cumbria) What is happening in the Bonin Islands !

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_big.php


marysduby you know I have always had faith in the great design. I once came across a gravity based flash dodar on t'internet. A simple task, place "planets" around a "sun" was well nigh on impossible to get a stable orbit with the interactions. Planets pitched into the Sun. Planets hurled into outer space absolute nightmare. It takes a steady hand to create that stable equilibrium, and yet here we are

I found it it's here http://dan-ball.jp/en/javagame/planet/

Dave that is cool!!
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Dave, pack for a slow journey and hope Yahweh is the engineer.
Good Luck

Be there no doubt wink
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I love stuff like this (thanks to theregister.co.uk)

http://www.icecube.wisc.edu/info/scale.php

The Register puts it this way

International boffins have created an enormous particle detector by instrumenting up a kilometre-on-a-side cube of the utterly pure and transparent ice found thousands of metres beneath the surface at the South Pole.

Sensibly enough the boffins left the giant ice cube in place rather than trying to move it to somewhere more convenient. Sensitive optical instruments were lowered down holes drilled into the ice cap to depths of as much as 2,450m. Sealed up in the transparent darkness kilometres below the Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station, the sensors are able to pick up tiny flashes of blue light ("Cherenkov radiation") produced when a neutrino collides with a particle amid the ice.


Now that is literally cool cool
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skgiven you have been watching too much of "The Day after Tomorrow"

A work of fiction smile

Our current cold winters are in part caused by a weakened Sun not shining as powerfully around the equator which in turn doesn't bring as many of those watts further North on the Gulf Stream..."
Some movie based on scientific documentaries such as "global dimming".

Not that these scientists get it right all the time,

March 2002:
Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia, "within a few years winter snowfall will become a very rare and exciting event... Children just aren't going to know what snow is"
... Well, it's a few years on, and they know.

Todays Warmest temp in my part of the world was reported as being +1. Must have missed that blip.
Present -7, expecting -10 again tonight.
Although the forecast says it will start to rain in a few days, the feels like temperature will remain about the same (-8) :(
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Apologies I have had Man Flu sad I picked a perfect time for it with work closed for Christmas.

That Sunspot maximum number for cycle 24 has been revised downwards in light of the lack of recent activity.

http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/predict.shtml

Itś not surprising flu strains are making the rounds in the UK I have just been unlucky enough to record and live through, along with my 60 million fellow Brits, the joint coldest UK December (currently) with 1890 in at least the last 352 years



Colder weather endangers that fine Human species too marysduby

Our brief respite from the sub zero has left us with cold damp fog

Just great ! sad
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