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Dataman
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I suppose that there is something that I don't understand - (Not the first time ![]() FreeHAL seems to be a BOINC-only app. Boinc seems to allow only one process per processor (8 on an I7). Now if you fill those 8 slots with WCG apps, how can you start a HAL process? Because it runs as virtual machines in memory only and does not use your processors. OK. *How do you start it* when BOINC is already set to 100% and won't let you set it to anything over that? You start it like any other project: 1 Go to Tools and select Attach to project. 2 Type in http://freehal.net/freehal_at_home/ 3 Select New User and enter email/password 4 When it attaches click finish and you will get one wu (default). 5 Go to My Account at FreeHAL and select FreeHAL preferences and select 25 as max wu's. EDIT: corrected email/password ![]() [Edit 1 times, last edit by Dataman at Feb 14, 2010 5:28:04 PM] |
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brown chris
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Thanks for creating that team, Keith!
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RT
Master Cruncher USA - Texas - DFW Joined: Dec 22, 2004 Post Count: 2636 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I suppose that there is something that I don't understand - (Not the first time ![]() FreeHAL seems to be a BOINC-only app. Boinc seems to allow only one process per processor (8 on an I7). Now if you fill those 8 slots with WCG apps, how can you start a HAL process? Because it runs as virtual machines in memory only and does not use your processors. OK. *How do you start it* when BOINC is already set to 100% and won't let you set it to anything over that? You start it like any other project: 1 Go to Tools and select Attach to project. 2 Type in http://freehal.net/freehal_at_home/ 3 Select New User and enter email/password 4 When it attaches click finish and you will get one wu (default). 5 Go to My Account at FreeHAL and select FreeHAL preferences and select 25 as max wu's. EDIT: corrected email/password It is very surprising to me that you can run 8 WCG work units and any other work units. I went up and tried it. Very interesting... Thanks for the education DM, Chris, Jonathan. I will watch the memory now. As a side light I can't put the value of FreeHAL contribution in the same ballpark as WCG projects (In my case Cancer projects) but it sure is an interesting configuration. |
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keithhenry
Ace Cruncher Senile old farts of the world ....uh.....uh..... nevermind Joined: Nov 18, 2004 Post Count: 18665 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
MyOnlineTeam Daily Statistics for 02/14 - All Members:
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Points milestones report ======================== marysduby reached 43,000,000 points ![]() Coingames reached 22,000,000 points ![]() parmesian reached 20,000,000 points ![]() Runtime milestones report ========================= Coingames reached 28 years of runtime ![]() Results returned milestones report ================================== No results returned milestones found. ![]() New members report ================== No new members found. ![]() Retired members report ====================== No new retired members found. ![]() For the week as a team: Statistics Total Run Time Points Results Team Records: Results Returned: 12/19/2007 2,522 Points: 05/06/2009 518,871 Runtime: 01/25/2006 1:123:00:53:34 Good crunching folks!!!!! |
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keithhenry
Ace Cruncher Senile old farts of the world ....uh.....uh..... nevermind Joined: Nov 18, 2004 Post Count: 18665 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
MyOnlineTeam Daily Statistics for 02/14 - Active Members
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Note: Active members are those who earned points in the prior 30 days. Top Twenty active members returning points today: 01: RT - 105,956 points 02: Coingames - 51,851 points 03: marysduby - 46,325 points 04: NiceMedTexMD - 42,180 points 05: brown chris - 28,897 points 06: parmesian - 24,395 points 07: Vuj - 22,049 points 08: keithhenry - 16,383 points 09: Dave Bell - 14,384 points 10: Bravehart - 8,773 points 11: Blueprint - 8,456 points 12: darth_vader - 7,325 points 13: Tomwp - 5,202 points 14: sulcata - 5,056 points 15: Jockin - 4,920 points 16: Esteban69 - 4,531 points 17: frans6nl - 4,480 points 18: johng - 4,324 points 19: smcclarigan - 4,194 points 20: Rene Punt - 3,687 points Total points returned today: 435,843 Active members returning points today: 36 Average points per member active today: 12,106.75 |
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parmesian
Senior Cruncher Joined: Nov 16, 2004 Post Count: 203 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
MyOnlineTeam Daily Statistics for 02/14 - All Members: Points milestones report ======================== marysduby reached 43,000,000 points ![]() Coingames reached 22,000,000 points ![]() parmesian reached 20,000,000 points ![]() Runtime milestones report ========================= Coingames reached 28 years of runtime ![]() Good crunching folks!!!!! that was quite a day! ![]() In Memory of Dave Bell |
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keithhenry
Ace Cruncher Senile old farts of the world ....uh.....uh..... nevermind Joined: Nov 18, 2004 Post Count: 18665 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
MyOnlineTeam Daily Statistics for 02/14 - All Members: Points milestones report ======================== marysduby reached 43,000,000 points ![]() Coingames reached 22,000,000 points ![]() parmesian reached 20,000,000 points ![]() Runtime milestones report ========================= Coingames reached 28 years of runtime ![]() Good crunching folks!!!!! that was quite a day! ![]() That's for sure! |
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RT
Master Cruncher USA - Texas - DFW Joined: Dec 22, 2004 Post Count: 2636 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
MyOnlineTeam Daily Statistics for 02/14 - All Members: Points milestones report ======================== marysduby reached 43,000,000 points ![]() Coingames reached 22,000,000 points ![]() parmesian reached 20,000,000 points ![]() Runtime milestones report ========================= Coingames reached 28 years of runtime ![]() Good crunching folks!!!!! that was quite a day! ![]() That's for sure! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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keithhenry
Ace Cruncher Senile old farts of the world ....uh.....uh..... nevermind Joined: Nov 18, 2004 Post Count: 18665 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I suppose that there is something that I don't understand - (Not the first time ![]() FreeHAL seems to be a BOINC-only app. Boinc seems to allow only one process per processor (8 on an I7). Now if you fill those 8 slots with WCG apps, how can you start a HAL process? Because it runs as virtual machines in memory only and does not use your processors. OK. *How do you start it* when BOINC is already set to 100% and won't let you set it to anything over that? You start it like any other project: 1 Go to Tools and select Attach to project. 2 Type in http://freehal.net/freehal_at_home/ 3 Select New User and enter email/password 4 When it attaches click finish and you will get one wu (default). 5 Go to My Account at FreeHAL and select FreeHAL preferences and select 25 as max wu's. EDIT: corrected email/password It is very surprising to me that you can run 8 WCG work units and any other work units. I went up and tried it. Very interesting... Thanks for the education DM, Chris, Jonathan. I will watch the memory now. As a side light I can't put the value of FreeHAL contribution in the same ballpark as WCG projects (In my case Cancer projects) but it sure is an interesting configuration. Yes, this is proving rather interesting. I have 56 WUs crunching at a time now on my quad and C2D. Both have 2GB of memory which is pretty much the minimum you need these days. In about 1.25 days on crunching FreeHAL, I already have over 9K BOINC credits - that would be 56K points over at WCG. Each FreeHAL WU takes 1.5-2 hours to complete on my machines and is good for 15 credits each. Memory starts out very low and grows as the task progresses. When nearing completion, they are each using just over 9MB of memory. That's 225MB or so max. If all you do on a machine is crunch, and in particular just WCG, you should be able to run the full 25 concurrent FreeHAL WUs ok. Task Manager shows zero percent CPU so it would support the no impact thought. However, while I'm not an expert on virtualization, there would seem to be some amount of work involved in running and managing the virtual tasks. So far though, I can't see any big impact on my other crunching. I've been running just WCG and FreeHAL for the past 24 hours and just WCG for the 24 prior to that. My WCG points for today are slightly less that yesterday but I can see that difference just from when the WCG tasks hit during the day. I did return two fewer WCG results today that yesterday. Looking at it in terms of points per WCG WU, it's down 18-20 points today vs yesterday. I ran only HFCC WUs on both days. I would suspect more memory might help but I'm a case of someone running minimal memory on the old C2D and quad CPUs (about 2.25 GHZ) machines and I would say any impact of running FreeHAL is minimal. Now, if you're doing real work on a machine or crunching other projects that use lots of memory (like Lattice), you may not be able to run FreeHAL or at least the max of 25 concurrent WUs. Of course when I'm crunching Lattice, I only crunch one Lattice WU at a time anyway and that's without FreeHAL. It doesn't have the appeal as a project that WCG has but I've just increased my daily BOINC credits 4X-5X just by adding the one project without hurting my existing crunching. Who'd have thunk it! |
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keithhenry
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Thanks for creating that team, Keith! ![]() Chris, you'll never know just how much I appreciate you asking first rather than just going ahead and creating it yourself without asking. |
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