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Re: Discovering Dengue Drugs - Together Phase 2 Work Unit Types

Welcome to Discovering Dengue Drugs - Together Phase 2. The purpose of this forum post is to help member understand what type of work unit is running on their machines and why there may be periods of no work.

To get started, there are 4 major types of work units for this project. These types are: Prerun, A, B, and C. Below is a work flow image to help visualise the different types of work units and how they relate to each other.


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Type Prerun: ("pb" in chart): These work units are run on our alpha grid, an internal grid of machines we use primarily for testing (alpha testing is performed before beta testing). This decision was made due to the high upload to runtime ratio and the relatively short amount of time it would take the alpha grid to run the type A work units.
Runtime: ~0.5 hour
Quantity: About 36,000 work units
Download: ~100 KBytes
Upload: ~20 MBytes
Identifier: pb
Results: Each Prerun work unit creates one type A work unit
Checkpoints: None

Type A ("ps" in chart): These work units are the very long running work units.
Runtime: 30-100 hours
Quantity: About 36,000 work units
Download: ~20 MBytes
Upload: ~2 MBytes
Identifier: ps
Results: Each type A work unit creates two type B work units: (one "se" and one "pe")
Checkpoints: 50 times within a work unit. Evenly throughout the run, every 2%.

Type B ("se" or "pe" in chart): These work units are faster with very frequent checkpoints.
Runtime: 5-10 Hours
Quantity: About 72,000 work units
Download: ~2MBytes (se) or ~20MBytes (pe)
Upload: ~2MBytes (se and pe)
Identifier: se, pe
Results: Each type B work unit creates about 250 to 350 type C workunits
Checkpoints: As frequently as every 10 seconds, but per member's project preferences

Type C: This type of work unit represents the bulk of the overall work to be done.
Runtime: 1 to 5 Hours
Quantity: About 22,000,000 work units.
Download: ~2MBytes (sq, sd, sr) or ~20MBytes (pq, pd, pr, pc, pl)
Upload: < 1MBytes
Identifier: pq, pd, pr, pc, pl, sq, sd, sr
Results: These are the final step. Results are sent to researchers
Checkpoints: As frequently as about 1 per minute, but per member's project preferences

At least two copies of each work unit are sent out to two different member machines. This is used to validate results and eliminate any errant computations. The Prerun work units will periodically arrive from the researchers to World Community Grid in batches of 1000 work units. Usually processing for these batches will be overlapped, so there will usually be all types of work units running at the same time. However, there may be periods of time when work units are not available. This is because during the Prerun, Type A, and Type B phases of the work flow, there are not a large number of work units available and due to some of the long processing times for these, the type C work units will require some waiting before they are ready to run.

Tips on identifiers. To find out what type of work unit you have you will notice that in the work unit name, there are 6 characters at the end. The first two of those 6 is the identifier. For example for work unit name "ly01_a015_pe0000", the identifier is "pe". From the information above, the "pe" identifier represents a type B work unit.

Thanks,
-Uplinger


To mention that from yesterday afternoon until now, got around 42 Wu's.
Based on the informative graphic above from Uplinger post, I assume that have the luck to get the full set of main B and C types, as follow:

pe se pca pcb pda pdb pla pl sda sdb sqa sqb sr ts

Combined with the A-Types processed before, I feel that can't have better luck.
In fact, I consider it wonderful and very helpful once all set of types are being processed in a reliable and fast kind of machine
(Windows Ultimate 32 Bit + Intel Quad Extreme QX9770 3,2 GHz - 4 GB RAM - Boinc release 6.2.28).

Probably many coleagues have similar examples in other kind of machines, reliables or not...

I guess that it, maybe could be considered one of many good examples of smooth wide distribution and processing, under a very diverse project like DDDT2.

Now need crunch all asap to avoid some lost like aborted by server.

Let's work hard in dedicated mode, once it is a countdown, ever !

wink cool biggrin peace good luck praying coffee coffeecoffee coffee coffee

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Re: Discovering Dengue Drugs - Together Phase 2 Work Unit Types

Hi,

i have a problem with a Typ-A Workunit.
After 45 hours and 20 minutes the progress stand at 2.84%.
My computer is a Intel Q9450 @3,1 GHz with 4 GB DDR2-RAM and Windows Vista. All other Typ-A Workunits running normal.

What should i do? I calculate (with the same computing speed) ~65 days to complete the WU. Deadline are 10 days.

WU-Details:
Project Name: Discovering Dengue Drugs - Together - Phase 2 (Type A)
Created: 05.04.10
Name: erlc_b099_ps0000
Minimum Quorum: 2
Replication: 2


Regards.
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Re: Discovering Dengue Drugs - Together Phase 2 Work Unit Types

Hi Markus, have you tried shutting down/restarting BOINC?, also, what is your wingman reporting?
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Re: Discovering Dengue Drugs - Together Phase 2 Work Unit Types

Hi Markus!
When you come back to answer gb009761's question would you please open a new thread titled something like "erlc_b099_ps0000 - possible bad work unit" in this same DDDT2 forum.

The thread you are using here is a sticky thread (some kind of reference) about the various types of DDDT2 work units, not ideal for specific problem reporting.

Thanks in advance. Jean.
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Re: Discovering Dengue Drugs - Together Phase 2 Work Unit Types

. But we need to wait until all the work units from a given batch are returned before we can process them and create the next level of work units.

-Uplinger

Roughly how long dose it take to make the next batch of work?
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Re: Discovering Dengue Drugs - Together Phase 2 Work Unit Types

Do we know all the names of the targets for this project? And could there be a recap of where we stand on the various targets at the moment?

I know there were several targets that were run for verification/norming purposes... and now we are working on the "real" targets... if I recall correctly, so far we've worked on dg01-05...
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