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KWSN - A Shrubbery
Master Cruncher Joined: Jan 8, 2006 Post Count: 1585 Status: Offline |
At the risk of derailing this thread, Fox News is not a reliable news outlet, neither is MSNBC.
----------------------------------------I gave up long ago on the idea of impartial news outlets, but some are so blatantly slanted as to not be reference quality.  Distributed computing volunteer since September 27, 2000 |
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Former Member
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I subscribe to an RSS feed of Breaking News broadly based,
----------------------------------------and happened across this piece of news there which I found was a fitting a propos to the Norway tragedy and could fit in as a view point in this thread. Even though living overseas, I am aware that Fox News is regarded as having an agenda of it's own - but how do you manipulate a fact involving six corpses? - six corpses created with one gun supposed to defend? Isn't that hard facts - hard in more than one meaning of the word, KWSN - A Shrubbery? Definitely off topic, but always curious: KWSN - A Shrubbery? Would the connection be The Knights Who Say Ni! or KWSN radio in Sioux Falls, SD or neither? EDIT: Above question added.  [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Jul 24, 2011 6:56:41 AM] |
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GeraldRube
Master Cruncher United States Joined: Nov 20, 2004 Post Count: 2153 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Much more dangerous---Number of abortions per year: Approximately 42 Million Number of abortions per day: Approximately 115,000 --------- http://www.abortionno.org/Resources/fastfacts.html Good riddance, the earth is already over populated to even begin to cry about un-wanted unborn children. I think this thread is extremely offensive to anyone who has had family or friends shot and has no place on the WCG site. Kindly remove it.------------------------This is the position of most Liberals/Progressives--if it doesnt fit their agenda forbid it--only free speech for them-- Nice, start a thread about your own political agenda then ask to delete it once others post thier contrary opinions? What would Soviet Russia think of that  Well you just made yourself look like a fool--if you read the posts you would see i was replying to someone that wanted it removed   |
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KWSN - A Shrubbery
Master Cruncher Joined: Jan 8, 2006 Post Count: 1585 Status: Offline |
I subscribe to an RSS feed of Breaking News broadly based, and happened across this piece of news there which I found was a fitting a propos to the Norway tragedy and could fit in as a view point in this thread. Even though living overseas, I am aware that Fox News is regarded as having an agenda of it's own - but how do you manipulate a fact involving six corpses? - six corpses created with one gun supposed to defend? Isn't that hard facts - hard in more than one meaning of the word, KWSN - A Shrubbery? Definitely off topic, but always curious: KWSN - A Shrubbery? Would the connection be The Knights Who Say Ni! or KWSN radio in Sioux Falls, SD or neither? EDIT: Above question added. Interestingly enough, I had assumed someone would raise the Norway tragedy to reply to someone from England who had mentioned you don't hear of mass shootings in Europe. People are people. It doesn't matter what method they choose, they will find ways to exterminate mass numbers of others. If you look at the activities in the middle east they have found effective ways to inflict casualties without guns. It's not the guns that are the problem, it's the lack of respect for fellow human beings and that cannot be legislated away. I know it sounds cliché but it's true. Legal restrictions do not hinder people whose intention it is to break the law. One could attempt the argument of ready availability of firearms and have slightly more success, but the current problem of illicit drugs is (to me) a far stronger argument against the effectiveness of legislation. This country was founded on the proposition that individuals are capable of deciding for themselves and are responsible enough to accept the consequences when they make mistakes or intentionally violate the rights of others. Imposing restrictions on gun ownership only increases the amount of guns available. I have seen this first hand and statistics will support my observations. [ot] As for my name, look at my signature. Ni![/ot] Distributed computing volunteer since September 27, 2000 |
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Former Member
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<Ni! My intelligence - in more than one meaning of the word - let me down. Sorry.>
A deliberate hand made mass shooting like the one in Norway is not daily fare on any side of the pond. In the Middle East and Afghanistan, they kill impressive numbers of people by terrorist actions, but I have not heard about it being done by one man using hand weapons. I agree with you that the guns are not the problem but the people in control of them, and I have no doubt that the majority of people with a gun license handle their weapons carefully, cautiously and with respect as to not do harm or invite harm on both sides of the Atlantic. You cannot hinder people running amok with guns be they legally or illegally owned, and noone issuing licenses/permits is able to look into the future and deny John Doe a permit because he will go postal in 18 weeks. Unfortunately. This is probably off topic as well - but it was you, Ni! who mentioned it, and I'm too verbose to not reply. I don't know much about your "current" problem of illicit drugs. I mostly read about awful things taking place south of your border with mass liquidations of assumedly drug related character. Now I may drop a bomb, but in my opinion the problem with illicit drugs is that they are - illicit. Tobacco - an addicting substance - is legal. Imagine being able to get a prescription for your daily fix and being able to afford buying it. You could hold a job, didn't have to steal your way and could eventually kick the habit with the right treatment and motivation. And most importantly: Imagine as one side effect the river of income for the Taleban drying out and the poppy fields turning into - say - pea fields .... |
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KWSN - A Shrubbery
Master Cruncher Joined: Jan 8, 2006 Post Count: 1585 Status: Offline |
I couldn't agree with you more. Making things illegal does not stop their use, it only criminalizes the people who do so. The reason I used that as an example is that prohibition is a failed concept whether it applies to alcohol, drugs, or firearms.
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GeraldRube
Master Cruncher United States Joined: Nov 20, 2004 Post Count: 2153 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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SMOKING GUN: --- http://www.newswithviews.com/Wallace/andrew128.htm
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