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Re: What GPU's would you bring to the WCG table?

Pretty much, or at least how it was explained to me. I have even seen where people cut the cards down to fit instead of opening the slot. However, I don't recommend that since there is a lot more potential to ruin hardware.
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Re: What GPU's would you bring to the WCG table?

OK, so it's just the same I/O process paralleled 16 times. That makes more sense.

My newest system has two x16 slots that I filled with dual GT520s. That took care of the last of my crunching capable cards.


My new board has 3 X16 slots but I am not sure I will ever use all 3! I bought it because it handles my new AMD X6 and right now it only has 1 AMD 5770 in it, but I do have another one of those on the shelf still.
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Re: What GPU's would you bring to the WCG table?

Well, was trying and attached to a number of GPU operating grids bringing a laptop 2 the table that has 2 Graphics units, one on the CPU and one which identifies itself as an ATI HD6490M [with 1 Gig of dedicated DDR3 RAM]. Only MW has responded with the oddest rebuff:

Your NVIDIA GPU lacks the needed compute capability (1.3, needed for double precision math.

Is it seeing the CPU based graphics module as NVIDIA or the ATI card? The device manager says there's a Intel HD and a Radeon HD6490M.

Anyway, anyone knows a project or projects that can do [light] crunching on the ATI? TThrottle recognizes the card and is able to throttle it, so it would be running likely on half power, not to fry things.

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Anyway, anyone knows a project or projects that can do [light] crunching on the ATI? TThrottle recognizes the card and is able to throttle it, so it would be running likely on half power, not to fry things.

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Hi Sekerob,

If your ATI indeed does not support double precision you could try either Collatz or PrimeGrid. My GPU, recognised by BOINC as Radeon HD 4600, doesn't support double precision and I'm able to run these two projects.
Last week I've tried POEM, because there it became possible recently to run GPU-WU's, but with my GPU I couldn't get it working. Whether that was caused by this lack of support of double-precision??
What the experts said on the POEM forum was that you have to use BOINC-manager 7.0.3 and Catalyst drivers of at least version 11.9 (11.12 are the latest on this moment). These Catalyst drivers do support OpenCL which is apparently required.
I'm not sure whether these Catalyst drivers are specific for Windows or not (you did not mention whether it's a Windows-laptop or not).

Well I would say give it a shot this GPU-crunching wink
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Re: What GPU's would you bring to the WCG table?

MOO! has the least amount of requirements and will get you more points then PrimeGrid (which favors nVidia cards) or Collatz which favors ATI/AMD. But all three "should" work. I know nVidia cards only need 64MB for Moo! but am not sure if they ever lowered ATI/AMD requirements down from 256MB or not.

Edit: Totally forgot, but you could also see if it will run on POEM or not. I think as long as it is above like a 4500 or maybe 4600 series card. You will need to run 7.0.3 or newer with updated Catalyst drivers.

Edit 2: I have read some using the version 12 drivers for Catalyst which aren't official yet getting much better efficiency from their cards. However, I haven't tested any of it myself.
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Re: What GPU's would you bring to the WCG table?

Hi Sek,

POEM GPU WUs require Open CL capability but not double precision. Did you install the AMD APP SDK as well as the Catalyst driver? The OPEN CL library in the SDK is needed by POEM. If your card isn't on the list of supported hardware for the SDK, then that is your answer.

I'm having good luck running POEM on my netbook with an AMD Fusion E-350 chip. While not fast, the GPU gets more crunching done than the CPU! I've also run Collatz and PrimeGrid on this chip, but they are not as interesting to me.

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Re: What GPU's would you bring to the WCG table?

Albert@Home is also developing OpenCL for ATI/AMD.


* AMD GPU (500 MB free GPU memory, OpenCL 1.0 support)
* AMD Catalyst 11.7 (8.872) driver (and newer)
* BOINC 7.0.1 (and newer)
* Windows, Linux or Mac OS (10.7 only)

http://albert.phys.uwm.edu/
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Re: What GPU's would you bring to the WCG table?

NVIDIA GT 520, GTX 9800+, GTX 470, GTX 570, GTX 580 are available in principle. But only the slower cards are not yet dedicated to projects. The others heat my flat.


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Replaced GTX 295 by a new GTX 570.
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Re: What GPU's would you bring to the WCG table?

No specs or message details, so guessing that might be a Mac with Intel’s on-die GPU and an HD 6490M?
Heard of someone recently crunching using an on-die HD, but never an on-die Intel GPU. It’s still a waste of die space - well almost; if you can use it for your display and crunch on the real GPU it’s of some benefit.
While the HD 6490M should work at POEM on Win/Linux, there is no POEM++ OpenCL app for the Mac!
I think the MW rejection message is just a generic for not being double precision enabled (driver/GPU dependent); Compute Capable 1.3 or better NVidia GPU’s are double precision, anything less is either not up to the task (crunching at MW) or is not double precision. I think the message was aimed at the HD, rather than the Intel GPU, as the 6490M is single precision only. While Intel on-die GPU’s could in theory be used for some parts of some code they are not OpenCL friendly.
The HD 6490 is OpenCL capable, so as suggested above, use a recent Catalyst driver suite, and for now stick to 7.03 if you want to try POEM. There are a couple of heavy threads there. The app tends to only be ~50% optimized for the GPU (not enough loaded into GPU...), so should work without throttling. Tuning/downclocking would probably be a better option anyway. Most people are using app_info files to get performance %-ages up to the high 80's. Anyway, worth a look if your not on a Mac.
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Re: What GPU's would you bring to the WCG table?

MOO! has the least amount of requirements and will get you more points then PrimeGrid (which favors nVidia cards) or Collatz which favors ATI/AMD. But all three "should" work. I know nVidia cards only need 64MB for Moo! but am not sure if they ever lowered ATI/AMD requirements down from 256MB or not.

Edit: Totally forgot, but you could also see if it will run on POEM or not. I think as long as it is above like a 4500 or maybe 4600 series card. You will need to run 7.0.3 or newer with updated Catalyst drivers.

Edit 2: I have read some using the version 12 drivers for Catalyst which aren't official yet getting much better efficiency from their cards. However, I haven't tested any of it myself.



Don't know about efficiency on crunching, but the new 12.1 driver solved a BSOD I had with all of the 11.XX and some of the 10.XX drivers.
Now I will be able to use my HD5450(overclocked, 131 Gflops) in Poem@home and on WCG even though it's weak.
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