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New Beta Test starting Nov 6, 2013 v7.24 [ Issues Thread ]

This thread exists to discuss the new round of beta testing announced in this thread: https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewpostinthread?post=437179
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Re: New Beta Test starting Nov 6, 2013 v7.24 [ Issues Thread ]

Note: There have been comments about the large variation in runtime for the project. This is going to be a permanent of the project. The nature of this project makes it impossible to consistently size the jobs. As such expect to see a large variation in the runtime for each task.
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Re: New Beta Test starting Nov 6, 2013 v7.24 [ Issues Thread ]

Glad you put the finger on the sore spot, and glad you froze the DCF to 1.000000 [albeit this only working for v7 clients].

Now, the hunt is on for those 7.24 to run on me W7-64 service installed client. So far, no work.

edit: And the good news is, after re-selecting Beta testing for the 'service' running device blushing , that the first 3 of 7.24 got past the 10 second mark... 3 minutes and counting.

edit2: And the funny is, the 4th received was a 7.22 repair job... it immediately started with the zero status exit cycle, whilst the 7.24 stoically continued crunching, now 8 minutes with progresses % incrementing. Send the 7.22 to it's hereafter pastures. :D
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Re: New Beta Test starting Nov 6, 2013 v7.24 [ Issues Thread ]

Note: There have been comments about the large variation in runtime for the project. This is going to be a permanent of the project. The nature of this project makes it impossible to consistently size the jobs. As such expect to see a large variation in the runtime for each task.

Thanks much for this information. My run times yesterday were all over the map and I was wondering about it. I am running 44 right now and will see what happens.
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Re: New Beta Test starting Nov 6, 2013 v7.24 [ Issues Thread ]

Just completed two in a very short time:

BETA_ BETA_ 9999979_ 0228d_ 0-- 2174649 Pending Validation 06.11.13 14:48:22 06.11.13 14:54:39 0.05 / 0.05 1.4 / 0.0
BETA_ BETA_ 9999979_ 0225d_ 1-- 2174649 Pending Validation 06.11.13 14:48:22 06.11.13 14:51:30 0.02 / 0.02 0.5 / 0.0

I got four more WU. Two are running and checkpointing (every 10 minutes) just how I like them wink
Another one was stuck for 10 minutes at 0,500%. Now the percentage is going up, but no checkpoint until now (15 minutes). Edit: First checkpoint after 18 minutes, second 28 minutes.
The last one ist stuck for now 15 minutes at 0,500%, but checkpointed at 10:00. Edit: Second checkpoint at 26:35 and 1,414%
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Re: New Beta Test starting Nov 6, 2013 v7.24 [ Issues Thread ]

Now, the hunt is on for those 7.24 to run on me W7-64 service installed client. So far, no work.
No hunting, just luck:
After having looking 2 hours to a black screen with CHKDSK info and following reboot, the first thing I saw was arriving 3 7.24 tasks on my Windows Vista64 quad without service install for BOINC.
4th core outside of BOINC very busy with an RNA World VM.

The 0.5% init phase is also very different in time of those three tasks.

Edit: Forgot to mention: 2 of the 3 tasks are 32bit versions.
Edit again: Mind I saw a ghost with this task on Server 2008 service install: BETA_BETA_9999981_0552d_1 using beta17 version 724 in slot 41
At 14 seconds runtime it showed 100% done and disappered, what wasn't true, because it jumped down the queue sorted on progress to 0.5%.
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Re: New Beta Test starting Nov 6, 2013 v7.24 [ Issues Thread ]

Got just 1 of these v7.24 WUs, and it's on my Q9650, Win 7-x64, BOINC 7.0.64, service install.
It's purring along quite happily, 31% complete after 34 min, last checkpoint at 26 min.
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Re: New Beta Test starting Nov 6, 2013 v7.24 [ Issues Thread ]

All 8 cores of the W7-64 humming along with one stuck to 0.500% after half an hour and no checkpoint. For the nervous types, if you navigate to the appropriate job slot, seen in job properties of the BM, [structure could be hidden requiring the path to be typed as sub from where the data_dir is as printed in event log at top], then open up the stderr.txt file in notepad or other ASCII text editor/viewer. Then you get the view something like this, which shows that actually the first computing pass (0) was scaled, indicating that all is fine, up to that point:

Commandline = projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/wcgrid_beta17_7.24_windows_x86_64 -SettingsFile BETA_9999982_0400d.txt -DatabaseFile dataset-GDS2771-v1.txt
Initializing
wcg_learn_limit = 250000
Running
INFO: WcgLearnLimit(250000) reached. 0.9184007985596736 0.0622189357504794
INFO: WcgLearnLimit(250000) reached. 1.7245591172529657 0.0036618170975089
INFO: WcgLearnLimit(250000) reached. 1.4943797402393102 0.2484098818163147
INFO: WcgLearnLimit(250000) reached. 1.1770141398737906 0.0271241741984340
INFO: WcgLearnLimit(250000) reached. 1.0493408828623387 0.4672734253881572
INFO: WcgLearnLimit(250000) reached. 1.8702338274791259 0.2873483948776539
INFO: WcgLearnLimit(250000) reached. 0.0575631726082975 0.0326153084776024
INFO: WcgLearnLimit(250000) reached. 0.1696588414824873 0.0242827797963230
INFO: WcgLearnLimit(250000) reached. 0.2321585081598414 0.0015365133441350
INFO: WcgLearnLimit(250000) reached. 0.1617702345736234 0.0528432482007020
INFO: WcgLearnLimit(250000) reached. 0.1395274012199934 0.0267079080608426
INFO: WcgLearnLimit(250000) reached. 0.2623190578883623 0.0046133714504322
INFO: WcgLearnLimit(250000) reached. 0.1370839717147874 0.0295953898428252
INFO: WcgLearnLimit(250000) reached. 0.2684822125722803 0.0172978689687397
INFO: WcgLearnLimit(250000) reached. 1.0544909225500305 0.0088792981532038
INFO: WcgLearnLimit(250000) reached. 0.4664028476445310 0.0025447455122958
INFO: WcgLearnLimit(250000) reached. 0.1696830913153917 0.0019285440335466
[16:41:11]: Computing pass 0
INFO: WcgLearnLimit(250000) reached. 1.5686208681947846 1.2800151977205587
INFO: WcgLearnLimit(250000) reached. 1.4702578928421417 1.2410766244212255

edit: Make sure to exit the txt viewer after you're done, without saving of course. If you don't it could lead to the file having remained locked and the task not able to write new data.... carash :O
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Re: New Beta Test starting Nov 6, 2013 v7.24 [ Issues Thread ]

I have 4 running sweetly on this service-install Win7-64. Well done with the fix!

However, like BoincST, I received one that completed very quickly. Maybe normal, maybe not.
BETA_ BETA_ 9999980_ 0224d_ 1-- Pending Validation 06/11/13 15:08:41 06/11/13 15:11:51 0.02 / 0.02 0.5 / 0.0

Just this in the Event Log:

06/11/2013 15:08:45 | World Community Grid | Starting task BETA_BETA_9999980_0224d_1 using beta17 version 724 in slot 7
06/11/2013 15:10:11 | World Community Grid | Computation for task BETA_BETA_9999980_0224d_1 finished

and Result Log:

Result Name: BETA_ BETA_ 9999980_ 0224d_ 1--
<core_client_version>7.0.64</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
Commandline = projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/wcgrid_beta17_7.24_windows_x86_64 -SettingsFile BETA_9999980_0224d.txt -DatabaseFile dataset-GDS2771-v1.txt
Initializing
wcg_learn_limit = 750000
Running
Result.out = 10479053.000000
Run complete, CPU time: 82.586929
15:10:08 (5092): called boinc_finish
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Re: New Beta Test starting Nov 6, 2013 v7.24 [ Issues Thread ]

. . . At 14 seconds runtime it showed 100% done and disappered, what wasn't true, because it jumped down the queue sorted on progress to 0.5%.


I saw this also on one of my Win32 machines. In my case it ran up to 100% immediately upon starting, then settled down to 0.5% and is running normally.
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