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mmstick
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SekeRob, it's too complicated for me. I need a graphical menu based interface so that I can easily update the OS, among other things, and I don’t want to memorize Linux command lines. I read on Wikipedia that the Debian based Linux Mint is faster than the Ubuntu based Mint, but "requires a deeper knowledge and experience with Linux, dpkg and APT". It’s also stated that, ”Debian is less user-friendly and desktop-ready than Ubuntu, with some rough edges”. However, the Debian Mint comes with a Cinnamon desktop, which feels familiar to Windows users like myself. It’s all a bit confusing. Is Wikipedia right about Debian based Mint being faster, or do they only mean more responsive and not faster when it comes to crunching data? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Mint#Linux_Mint_Debian_Edition Has anybody compared the speed differences between Windows and a Debian distribution when crunching OET? I've been using Linux for years and I can tell you that there is no difference in performance between different distributions. Whatever difference there may be is chalked up to what version of GCC was used to compile the packages in that distro. What that wikipedia article claims is pure biased nonsense. I don't recommend Mint because it's simply Ubuntu remixed according to Mint's vision, without security patches and timely updates of the main Ubuntu repos. You don't have to kill the GUI to get the most out of processing -- simply switching to a different TTY session with ctrl + alt + F1 is enough. In Ubuntu, the GUI TTY is ctrl + alt + F7. I'd also like to recommend a program named 'boinctui' which gives you a command-line user interface for managing BOINC. I personally prefer using this over BOINC Manager. Running commands on Linux isn't nearly as complicated as you think it is. In the case of Ubuntu, upgrades are a matter of running 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y'. Many users simply alias those two commands to an alias named 'update' so that when they type 'update' into the terminal, it will automatically update/upgrade. [Edit 2 times, last edit by mmstick at Dec 14, 2014 12:23:10 AM] |
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Thanks for the input everyone.
----------------------------------------I think I might have emphasized the importance of the desktop environment a bit too much. You’re right, it can’t make that much of a difference, but I’m not changing my mind about the GUI. I need it. It’s not only a matter of memorizing the command lines, it’s also about having the feeling of being in control of the computer. We, non-techies, like menus and levers that have a "recommended" setting clearly marked out. I have moved the rest of my off-topic comment to: https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/...37570_lastpage,yes#478732 [Edit 3 times, last edit by Former Member at Dec 15, 2014 9:54:09 PM] |
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I do not understand, why nobody at WCG sees the enormous power of GPU processing.Why are you wasting (not using) this resource?
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Must be the zillionth and umpteened time, but the science app must be portable, and -Results- 100.000000% matching the cpu version. Most of these apps cannot. If it could, most projects on boinc, from everywhere would long have. They haven't.
----------------------------------------That said, saw a comment that MCM1 was candidate for porting, as was HCC1 by the same scientists. We're now well past half way, 56%, so doubt it will still happen unless the scope of work is expanded. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Dec 15, 2014 9:47:25 AM] |
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BTW, if CERN/LHC starts running theirs on GPU such as Test4Theory, the programming nut will have been cracked, to include getting the intermediate data from storage to GPGPU and back. To quote a GPGPU coding outfit "Copying of large quantities of data to and from a device is relatively slow".
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siu77
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TBMS, It's all pretty offtopic.
But, linux is not for "non-techies", it's for fun. How To Ask Questions The Smart Way - a lot of letters, but I strongly recommend to read at least "introduction". Short answer is: man sshP.S. I'm not a hacker, by the way. |
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I agree, it is off topic. Sorry. I wish there was a Linux forum, like they have for Android. You are also right about Linux not being for non-techies. This is why millions of users like I have remained Windows users, and likely will continue to be so.
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TBMS wrote: I agree, it is off topic. Sorry. I wish there was a Linux forum, like they have for Android. You are also right about Linux not being for non-techies. This is why millions of users like I have remained Windows users, and likely will continue to be so. [OT]Or you can significantly improve your working experiences by moving to Mac OS X ![]() Cheers ![]() ![]() Crunching@Home since January 13 2000. Shrubbing@Home since January 5 2006 ![]() |
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mmstick
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I agree, it is off topic. Sorry. I wish there was a Linux forum, like they have for Android. You are also right about Linux not being for non-techies. This is why millions of users like I have remained Windows users, and likely will continue to be so. That doesn't really explain why millions of 'non-techies' are fine with using Ubuntu. If you were to ask me, GNOME 3 is the simplest desktop environment to use on Linux -- designed for people like you. https://camo.githubusercontent.com/34597cd88f...02d643773377963782e6a7067 That said, Ubuntu's default desktop environment -- Unity -- is still much simpler than Windows and offers a powerful feature, the Unity HUD, which is accessible by pressing Alt. [Edit 1 times, last edit by mmstick at Dec 17, 2014 4:11:05 AM] |
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Greetings!
My actual laptop has a Nvidia GTX 850M, and an Intel HD 4600. Is it be possible to use both at the same time? Or even each one on a different project? The same way, is it possible to select a project to that specific GPU? |
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