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metalius
Cruncher Lithuania Joined: Aug 19, 2014 Post Count: 31 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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With the soft stop methodology nothing gets throw away, nothing. Under ideal conditions (24/7 + permanent Internet connection) only. Also, this soft stop aborts the tasks several hours before deadline. https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms/devi....do?workunitId=1548078708  [Edit 1 times, last edit by metalius at Oct 11, 2015 11:01:05 AM] |
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Sgt.Joe
Ace Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 4, 2006 Post Count: 7695 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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With the soft stop methodology nothing gets throw away, nothing. Under ideal conditions (24/7 + permanent Internet connection) only. Also, this soft stop aborts the tasks several hours before deadline. https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms/devi....do?workunitId=1548078708 Those who are doing some of the work off line or who have some substantial breaks from internet connectivity will lose some work. However, given the size of the WU's, the length of time needed to crunch them and the total number of steps the scientists want computed, I think WCG has done a good job of minimizing the lost work. Just like CEP2, this project at this stage may not be a good fit for some crunchers, given their particular setup. Cheers
Sgt. Joe
*Minnesota Crunchers* |
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rbotterb
Senior Cruncher United States Joined: Jul 21, 2005 Post Count: 401 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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I'm running these FAAH2 WUs only on the weekends right now when I generally run from Friday night to Monday morning. I find I open the queue to them on Thursday (snagged two of them by Friday morning this weekend) and managed to run them completely 100% complete by late Saturday night/Sunday morning. They look to be consistently running a full 30+ hours on my old laptop (circa 2009 HP dv7 running Win 7 - old laptop now but cutting edge back when I first bought it).
I'm still working on my Emerald Badge on OET (probably will get it around YE2015 or very early 2016) and my Emerald Badge on UGM whenever they decide to put more WUs into the pipeline - only 49 days short of that boggy right now, so it may be at least 1Q2016 before I try to run this workload exclusively unless of course another project pops up in early 2016. In the meantime, it looks like there will be plenty of good stuff to crunch on even if this new FAAH2 workload has its own interesting odd side effects with its 10% increments....at least it give some of us something to post on ..... |
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metalius
Cruncher Lithuania Joined: Aug 19, 2014 Post Count: 31 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Just like CEP2, this project at this stage may not be a good fit for some crunchers, given their particular setup. Observing BOINC projects I found... the scientists more and more often are ignoring one important thing - DC is not a supercomputer. The result of these "ignore" is more and more projects - "rich people clubs". Unfortunately... [Edit 1 times, last edit by metalius at Oct 11, 2015 11:54:33 AM] |
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cjslman
Master Cruncher Mexico Joined: Nov 23, 2004 Post Count: 2082 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Observing BOINC projects I found... the scientists more and more often are ignoring one important thing - DC is not a supercomputer. The result of these "ignore" is more and more projects - "rich people clubs". Unfortunately... Sorry, but I don't understand your comment. What really got me lost was the the "rich people clubs" comment  CJSL Crunching for a better world... |
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metalius
Cruncher Lithuania Joined: Aug 19, 2014 Post Count: 31 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Sorry, but I don't understand your comment. Just try to process FAH2 tasks with 2 old laptops and 1 GSM modem for both of these old laptops, and You will understand... |
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cjslman
Master Cruncher Mexico Joined: Nov 23, 2004 Post Count: 2082 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Your snotty answer didn't help me understand your original comment, so let's forget that it was ever made. I try to view this kind of project with the following thoughts:
----------------------------------------- The projects that makeup the WCG, are not here to make the voluntary crunchers happy, give them personal satisfaction or can be tailored to their personal needs. We, the crunchers, are here because we want to help solve some the the worlds illnesses and problems. - Different requirements are needed for different projects, therefore, not all projects behave in the same manner (CEP2 is a good example of this). - Not all projects are for all crunchers, due to their requirements. Most certainly CEP2 is this type of project and possibly FAH2 maybe another one. - I'm sure that the scientists that design these projects, try to make them as accessible as possible, but have to keep in line with the project's objectives. - In essence, WCG is not here for the crunchers.... the crunchers are here for WCG. CJSL Crunching for a brighter tomorrow... |
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branjo
Master Cruncher Slovakia Joined: Jun 29, 2012 Post Count: 1892 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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metalius wrote: Just try to process FAH2 tasks with 2 old laptops and 1 GSM modem for both of these old laptops, and You will understand... The easy way to solve the problem - attach these 2 rigs to separate profile https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms/device/viewProfiles.do with non-FAH2 projects selected in it. And keep FAH2 only in yours i7's (and maybe i3) Win7 rigs.  Crunching@Home since January 13 2000. Shrubbing@Home since January 5 2006  [Edit 1 times, last edit by branjo at Oct 11, 2015 4:54:26 PM] |
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metalius
Cruncher Lithuania Joined: Aug 19, 2014 Post Count: 31 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Your snotty answer didn't help me understand your original comment, so let's forget that it was ever made. If You are an adult person, please, just think about this: "It is very welcome to be friendly here..." |
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metalius
Cruncher Lithuania Joined: Aug 19, 2014 Post Count: 31 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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The easy way to solve the problem - attach these 2 rigs to separate profile Branjo, I did it already - I disabled FAH2 in all profiles, excluding "work". :) Thanks to God, I have several machines, which are really at work (running 24/7 + permanently on-line). And, of course, thank You for Your reply... |
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