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Re: Feeling like an idiot.
no configs for either, exist. I searched the entire BOINC program folder, nothing.

and this just happened and I feel like an even bigger idiot.
2020-07-28 1:30:45 PM | | Starting BOINC client version 7.16.7 for windows_x86_64
2020-07-28 1:30:45 PM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
2020-07-28 1:30:45 PM | | Libraries: libcurl/7.47.1 OpenSSL/1.0.2s zlib/1.2.8
2020-07-28 1:30:45 PM | | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
2020-07-28 1:30:45 PM | | Running under account flami
2020-07-28 1:30:52 PM | | OpenCL: Intel GPU 0: Intel(R) HD Graphics 405 (driver version 20.19.15.5070, device version OpenCL 1.2, 1586MB, 1586MB available, 90 GFLOPS peak)
2020-07-28 1:30:52 PM | | OpenCL CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU N3710 @ 1.60GHz (OpenCL driver vendor: Intel(R) Corporation, driver version 5.2.0.10094, device version OpenCL 1.2 (Build 10094))
2020-07-28 1:30:52 PM | | Windows processor group 0: 4 processors
2020-07-28 1:30:52 PM | | Host name: DESKTOP-RN45T0M
2020-07-28 1:30:52 PM | | Processor: 4 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU N3710 @ 1.60GHz [Family 6 Model 76 Stepping 4]
2020-07-28 1:30:52 PM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 movebe popcnt aes rdrandsyscall nx lm vmx tm2 pbe smep
2020-07-28 1:30:52 PM | | OS: Microsoft Windows 10: Core x64 Edition, (10.00.18362.00)
2020-07-28 1:30:52 PM | | Memory: 3.89 GB physical, 9.14 GB virtual
2020-07-28 1:30:52 PM | | Disk: 464.67 GB total, 380.45 GB free
2020-07-28 1:30:52 PM | | Local time is UTC -4 hours
2020-07-28 1:30:52 PM | | No WSL found.
2020-07-28 1:30:52 PM | | VirtualBox version: 6.0.14
2020-07-28 1:30:57 PM | World Community Grid | General prefs: from World Community Grid (last modified 28-Jul-2020 09:51:21)
2020-07-28 1:30:57 PM | World Community Grid | Computer location: home
2020-07-28 1:30:57 PM | | General prefs: using separate prefs for home
2020-07-28 1:30:57 PM | | Preferences:
2020-07-28 1:30:57 PM | | max memory usage when active: 2987.94 MB
2020-07-28 1:30:57 PM | | max memory usage when idle: 3585.53 MB
2020-07-28 1:30:59 PM | | max disk usage: 100.00 GB
2020-07-28 1:30:59 PM | | don't use GPU while active
2020-07-28 1:30:59 PM | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
2020-07-28 1:30:59 PM | | Setting up project and slot directories
2020-07-28 1:30:59 PM | | Checking active tasks
2020-07-28 1:30:59 PM | Asteroids@home | URL http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/; Computer ID 664796; resource share 50
2020-07-28 1:30:59 PM | Milkyway@Home | URL http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/; Computer ID 838588; resource share 100
2020-07-28 1:30:59 PM | ralph@home | URL https://ralph.bakerlab.org/; Computer ID 44227; resource share 250
2020-07-28 1:30:59 PM | Rosetta@home | URL https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/; Computer ID 3880669; resource share 3000
2020-07-28 1:30:59 PM | Universe@Home | URL https://universeathome.pl/universe/; Computer ID 552331; resource share 100
2020-07-28 1:30:59 PM | World Community Grid | URL http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/; Computer ID 6695258; resource share 10000
2020-07-28 1:30:59 PM | | Setting up GUI RPC socket
2020-07-28 1:31:00 PM | | Checking presence of 188 project files
2020-07-28 1:31:01 PM | | Suspending GPU computation - user request
2020-07-28 1:31:04 PM | World Community Grid | Starting task OPN1_0005832_04238_1
2020-07-28 1:31:05 PM | World Community Grid | Starting task OPN1_0005841_09607_1
2020-07-28 1:31:05 PM | World Community Grid | Starting task OPN1_0005862_05538_1
2020-07-28 1:31:05 PM | World Community Grid | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
2020-07-28 1:31:05 PM | World Community Grid | Requesting new tasks for Intel GPU
2020-07-28 1:31:08 PM | World Community Grid | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
2020-07-28 1:31:08 PM | World Community Grid | Project requested delay of 121 seconds
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Re: Feeling like an idiot.
Update: and it's back to square one, only requesting work for the GPU.

I only got 4 WUs - 3 OPN, one ARP and that's it.
ugh.
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Re: Feeling like an idiot.
But where is your global_prefs.xml content for that has a copy of the settings per your HOME profile which it says in log it's using.
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Re: Feeling like an idiot.
lavaflow, I searched my entire PC with windows' search function, and no such file exists. I even broadened the search to .xml - and no files with that ending exists on my hard drive.
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Re: Feeling like an idiot.
It MUST exist, so maybe you should looking in the boinc DATA directory which is different to the boinc PROGRAM directory. The path is actually printed in the log: Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC

Sometimes you need to have permission, but file explorer will tell you when navigating there.

PS, maybe you will find those other files too you said were not there.
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Re: Feeling like an idiot.
Yoerik,

I believe if you pull up your event log again, we might see if it's still using WCG for your profile. But when I view your preferences from the website, it has use at most x processors as nothing. This is odd if it was set from our site, which makes me believe another boinc project is changing this on yours. Also, you have xml in your global prefs that we don't use in WCG.

Also, if you're looking for the BOINC data directory, it is 'hidden' on Windows. Pull up the file explorer, and type in the data directory path as lavaflow has. There is NOT a space between Program and Data.

Note: since you are participating in more than one BOINC project (World Community Grid is considered a BOINC Project, Rosetta@Home is a different BOINC Project).

My guess is that your client did the updates in this order:
1. WCG Update <-- Pulled down the version you fixed on our site
2. WCG Update #2 <-- Downloaded actual cpu work
3. Update to other BOINC Project <-- It pulled down a new global prefs (this site might not be behaving properly or their timestamps are wrong)
4. WCG Update <-- This pushed the new global prefs that you got from step 3 to WCG. And is preventing your client from asking for new CPU work.

Thanks,
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Re: Feeling like an idiot.
Lavaflow - I did as you and Uplinger stated, went into the program data and feel like an even bigger idiot, lmao.

I found global_prefs - and I attempted the suggestion Uplinger mentioned, to fill in that blank processor preference on WCG's end, it updated the global_prefs file accordingly, and it had no impact on work fetch, after several attempts to ensure it wasn't causing the issue.

The global_prefs file after I made said change:
<global_preferences>
<source_project>http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/</source_project>
<source_scheduler>https://scheduler.worldcommunitygrid.org/boin...</source_scheduler>

<mod_time>1595972257</mod_time>
<max_ncpus_pct>100</max_ncpus_pct>
<cpu_usage_limit>99</cpu_usage_limit>
<run_on_batteries>0</run_on_batteries>
<run_if_user_active>1</run_if_user_active>
<run_gpu_if_user_active>1</run_gpu_if_user_active>
<idle_time_to_run>3</idle_time_to_run>
<suspend_if_no_recent_input>0</suspend_if_no_recent_input>
<suspend_cpu_usage>0</suspend_cpu_usage>
<work_buf_min_days>0.1</work_buf_min_days>
<work_buf_additional_days>0.1</work_buf_additional_days>
<cpu_scheduling_period_minutes>120</cpu_scheduling_period_minutes>
<disk_interval>60</disk_interval>
<disk_max_used_gb>10</disk_max_used_gb>
<disk_min_free_gb>0.5</disk_min_free_gb>
<disk_max_used_pct>100</disk_max_used_pct>
<ram_max_used_busy_pct>50</ram_max_used_busy_pct>
<ram_max_used_idle_pct>75</ram_max_used_idle_pct>
<leave_apps_in_memory>1</leave_apps_in_memory>
<vm_max_used_pct>50</vm_max_used_pct>
<max_bytes_sec_down>0</max_bytes_sec_down>
<max_bytes_sec_up>0</max_bytes_sec_up>
<daily_xfer_limit_mb>0</daily_xfer_limit_mb>
<daily_xfer_period_days>0</daily_xfer_period_days>
<dont_verify_images>0</dont_verify_images>
<confirm_before_connecting>0</confirm_before_connecting>
<hangup_if_dialed>0</hangup_if_dialed>
<venue name="home">
<max_ncpus_pct>100.0</max_ncpus_pct>
<cpu_usage_limit>100.0</cpu_usage_limit>
<run_on_batteries>1</run_on_batteries>
<run_if_user_active>1</run_if_user_active>
<idle_time_to_run>0.0</idle_time_to_run>
<suspend_if_no_recent_input>0.0</suspend_if_no_recent_input>
<suspend_cpu_usage>0.0</suspend_cpu_usage>
<work_buf_min_days>0.1</work_buf_min_days>
<work_buf_additional_days>1.0</work_buf_additional_days>
<cpu_scheduling_period_minutes>9999</cpu_scheduling_period_minutes>
<disk_interval>60.0</disk_interval>
<disk_max_used_gb>100.0</disk_max_used_gb>
<disk_min_free_gb>0.5</disk_min_free_gb>
<disk_max_used_pct>100.0</disk_max_used_pct>
<ram_max_used_busy_pct>75.0</ram_max_used_busy_pct>
<ram_max_used_idle_pct>90.0</ram_max_used_idle_pct>
<leave_apps_in_memory>1</leave_apps_in_memory>
<vm_max_used_pct>75.0</vm_max_used_pct>
<max_bytes_sec_down>0.0</max_bytes_sec_down>
<max_bytes_sec_up>0.0</max_bytes_sec_up>
<daily_xfer_limit_mb>0.0</daily_xfer_limit_mb>
<daily_xfer_period_days>0</daily_xfer_period_days>
<dont_verify_images>0</dont_verify_images>
<end_hour>0</end_hour>
<net_end_hour>0</net_end_hour>
<net_start_hour>0</net_start_hour>
<start_hour>0</start_hour>
<max_cpus>4</max_cpus>
</venue>
<venue name="work">
<max_ncpus_pct>100.0</max_ncpus_pct>
<cpu_usage_limit>99.0</cpu_usage_limit>
<run_on_batteries>1</run_on_batteries>
<run_if_user_active>1</run_if_user_active>
<run_gpu_if_user_active>1</run_gpu_if_user_active>
<idle_time_to_run>3</idle_time_to_run>
<suspend_if_no_recent_input>0.0</suspend_if_no_recent_input>
<suspend_cpu_usage>0.0</suspend_cpu_usage>
<work_buf_min_days>0.1</work_buf_min_days>
<work_buf_additional_days>0.2</work_buf_additional_days>
<cpu_scheduling_period_minutes>120</cpu_scheduling_period_minutes>
<disk_interval>60.0</disk_interval>
<disk_max_used_gb>100.0</disk_max_used_gb>
<disk_min_free_gb>0.5</disk_min_free_gb>
<disk_max_used_pct>100.0</disk_max_used_pct>
<ram_max_used_busy_pct>50.0</ram_max_used_busy_pct>
<ram_max_used_idle_pct>75.0</ram_max_used_idle_pct>
<leave_apps_in_memory>1</leave_apps_in_memory>
<vm_max_used_pct>50.0</vm_max_used_pct>
<max_bytes_sec_down>0.0</max_bytes_sec_down>
<max_bytes_sec_up>0.0</max_bytes_sec_up>
<daily_xfer_limit_mb>0.0</daily_xfer_limit_mb>
<daily_xfer_period_days>0</daily_xfer_period_days>
<dont_verify_images>0</dont_verify_images>
<confirm_before_connecting>1</confirm_before_connecting>
<hangup_if_dialed>0</hangup_if_dialed>
<end_hour>0</end_hour>
<net_end_hour>0</net_end_hour>
<net_start_hour>0</net_start_hour>
<start_hour>0</start_hour>
</venue>
<venue name="school">
<cpu_scheduling_period_minutes>9999</cpu_scheduling_period_minutes>
<disk_interval>60.0</disk_interval>
<disk_max_used_gb>10.0</disk_max_used_gb>
<disk_max_used_pct>100.0</disk_max_used_pct>
<disk_min_free_gb>0.5</disk_min_free_gb>
<end_hour>0</end_hour>
<leave_apps_in_memory/>
<max_bytes_sec_down>0.0</max_bytes_sec_down>
<max_bytes_sec_up>0.0</max_bytes_sec_up>
<daily_xfer_period_days>0</daily_xfer_period_days>
<daily_xfer_limit_mb>0.0</daily_xfer_limit_mb>
<max_ncpus_pct>100.0</max_ncpus_pct>
<suspend_cpu_usage>0.0</suspend_cpu_usage>
<net_end_hour>0</net_end_hour>
<net_start_hour>0</net_start_hour>
<run_if_user_active/>
<run_gpu_if_user_active/>
<run_on_batteries/>
<start_hour>0</start_hour>
<cpu_usage_limit>99.0</cpu_usage_limit>
<ram_max_used_busy_pct>50.0</ram_max_used_busy_pct>
<ram_max_used_idle_pct>75.0</ram_max_used_idle_pct>
<vm_max_used_pct>50.0</vm_max_used_pct>
<work_buf_min_days>0.1</work_buf_min_days>
<work_buf_additional_days>0.5</work_buf_additional_days>
<suspend_if_no_recent_input>0.0</suspend_if_no_recent_input>
</venue>
</global_preferences>


After this, I searched the program data for the two config files lavaflow mentioned earlier - and finally found cc_config, but not the other one. I renamed it as instructed, verified that BOINC was using WCG preferences as updated, and restarted the client.

This was the event log:
2020-07-28 5:52:06 PM | | cc_config.xml not found - using defaults
2020-07-28 5:52:06 PM | | Starting BOINC client version 7.16.7 for windows_x86_64
2020-07-28 5:52:06 PM | | Libraries: libcurl/7.47.1 OpenSSL/1.0.2s zlib/1.2.8
2020-07-28 5:52:06 PM | | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
2020-07-28 5:52:06 PM | | Running under account flami
2020-07-28 5:52:07 PM | | OpenCL: Intel GPU 0: Intel(R) HD Graphics 405 (driver version 20.19.15.5070, device version OpenCL 1.2, 1586MB, 1586MB available, 90 GFLOPS peak)
2020-07-28 5:52:07 PM | | OpenCL CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU N3710 @ 1.60GHz (OpenCL driver vendor: Intel(R) Corporation, driver version 5.2.0.10094, device version OpenCL 1.2 (Build 10094))
2020-07-28 5:52:07 PM | | Windows processor group 0: 4 processors
2020-07-28 5:52:07 PM | | Host name: DESKTOP-RN45T0M
2020-07-28 5:52:07 PM | | Processor: 4 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU N3710 @ 1.60GHz [Family 6 Model 76 Stepping 4]
2020-07-28 5:52:07 PM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 movebe popcnt aes rdrandsyscall nx lm vmx tm2 pbe smep
2020-07-28 5:52:07 PM | | OS: Microsoft Windows 10: Core x64 Edition, (10.00.18362.00)
2020-07-28 5:52:07 PM | | Memory: 3.89 GB physical, 9.14 GB virtual
2020-07-28 5:52:07 PM | | Disk: 464.67 GB total, 380.11 GB free
2020-07-28 5:52:07 PM | | Local time is UTC -4 hours
2020-07-28 5:52:07 PM | | No WSL found.
2020-07-28 5:52:07 PM | | VirtualBox version: 6.0.14
2020-07-28 5:52:12 PM | World Community Grid | General prefs: from World Community Grid (last modified 28-Jul-2020 17:37:37)
2020-07-28 5:52:12 PM | World Community Grid | Computer location: home
2020-07-28 5:52:12 PM | | General prefs: using separate prefs for home
2020-07-28 5:52:12 PM | | Preferences:
2020-07-28 5:52:12 PM | | max memory usage when active: 2987.94 MB
2020-07-28 5:52:12 PM | | max memory usage when idle: 3585.53 MB
2020-07-28 5:52:12 PM | | max disk usage: 100.00 GB
2020-07-28 5:52:12 PM | | don't use GPU while active
2020-07-28 5:52:12 PM | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
2020-07-28 5:52:12 PM | | Setting up project and slot directories
2020-07-28 5:52:12 PM | | Checking active tasks
2020-07-28 5:52:12 PM | ralph@home | URL https://ralph.bakerlab.org/; Computer ID 44227; resource share 250
2020-07-28 5:52:12 PM | Rosetta@home | URL https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/; Computer ID 3880669; resource share 3000
2020-07-28 5:52:12 PM | Universe@Home | URL https://universeathome.pl/universe/; Computer ID 552331; resource share 100
2020-07-28 5:52:12 PM | World Community Grid | URL http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/; Computer ID 6695258; resource share 10000
2020-07-28 5:52:12 PM | | Setting up GUI RPC socket
2020-07-28 5:52:12 PM | | Checking presence of 195 project files
2020-07-28 5:52:18 PM | World Community Grid | Project requested delay of 121 seconds
2020-07-28 5:54:47 PM | World Community Grid | update requested by user
2020-07-28 5:54:53 PM | World Community Grid | Project requested delay of 121 seconds
2020-07-28 5:56:57 PM | World Community Grid | Project requested delay of 121 seconds

It was unable to request work, as the event log shows. Unsure of what this was going to accomplish, but cool.

To troubleshoot on my own, I renamed the cc config back to normal, restarted the client and it just returned to only requesting GPU tasks of WCG, while being unable to request CPU work.
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Re: Feeling like an idiot.
yoerik,

If you could, please send your sched_request_*.xml and sched_reply_*.xml files to support@worldcommunitygrid.org and put ATTN: Uplinger in the subject. This will make sure they get to me. I can explore what your computer is sending and possibly figure out what the issue is. It could be something that requires debugging against the scheduler and having those will allow me to recreate it.

Also, just to make sure my logic from before was sound, can you do a project update on the 3 other BOINC Projects twice and then shutdown BOINC and restart it so we can see what it says the global prefs are?

Thanks,
-Uplinger
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I will do this. Thank you for your help, Uplinger.
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yoerik,

I've looked at your sched_request. It shows that your client is not requesting any work because it already has 6 tasks that it believes are running on your machine. On the website I see 6 tasks in progress as well for you. If you can, go into advanced mode on the client and click on the tasks tab. Do you see these tasks there?

As for the detached work units, they may have been scheduled to run on your computer, but when you mention in your first post about reinstalling WCG. This is where that classification comes from. They will remove from your result status page when other members process and the results are completed on WCG.

Thanks,
-Uplinger
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