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MarkH
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Re: World Community Grid complete restart

Yes, Sgt. Joe, some kind of 'load-balancing' (or whatever the buzzword is these days) to keep input and output at a sustainable level based on the current state of the WCG technology platform. Revving up WU production or releases seems to just break more stuff as the various systems are not balancing loads/demands amongst themselves. .
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Now with the distribution of ARP1 WUs, the download problems are back causing that machines run dry because of the downloading troubles.


I do not seen to be having trouble downloading ARP1 tasks. But I am currently having trouble uploading the results. They do go up, but at about 32KBps even though my data link usually goes at 9375 KBps (fibre-optic to the home Internet connection). I attribute this to US export control at the border from USA to Ontario, Canada. ;-)


I'm having upload issues as well with uploading ALL project tasks. I'm just across the river so things must be blocked up at the Ambassador Bridge. My bet would be that somehow the Moroun family is behind it.
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I'm having upload issues as well with uploading ALL project tasks. I'm just across the river so things must be blocked up at the Ambassador Bridge. My bet would be that somehow the Moroun family is behind it.


A very interesting story about the Ambassador bridge and the Maroun family.
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Yes. It's only one of two privately owned international crossings that I'm aware of. The other would be in your neck of the woods.
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Yes. It's only one of two privately owned international crossings that I'm aware of. The other would be in your neck of the woods.

Yes it is. It is the bridge between International Falls, Mn and Fort Francis Ontario. It used to be owned by Boise Cascade as part of the paper mill complex there. It goes over the Rainy River. I don't know if they still own it or not. I have been over it many years ago on the way to Kenora.
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Devs please fix can't upload normally and my tasks are running out of time.
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And that's one of the reasons to use a cache: making sure you have work while you're stuck trying to upload the work you've done. All you can really do in the meantime is to use an "auto clicker", or in other words, a script to tell boinc to try the upload again.
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Sgt.Joe:
Maybe they are releasing them from east to west starting in Europe. By the time they get to the midwest in the U.S. they have used up their supply. laughing

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Wasn't there a proportional division between the number of workunits per project, e.g. ARP1 : MCM1 : SCC1 = 1 : 6 : 1 (just an example), set and adjusted by the techs? Maybe that's why we see so few SCC1-tasks flowing at the moment.

I've collected a sample of 10 workunits, 1 per 1,000 workunits, and by the looks of it, they seem to be flowing at a slow pace:

workunit 297299752:
SCC1_0004096_MyoD1-A_85984_0  Fedora Linux  In Progress           2023-05-08T11:51:16  2023-05-14T11:51:16
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workunit 297298752:
SCC1_0004128_MyoD1-B_88603_0  MSWin 10      In Progress           2023-05-08T11:19:59  2023-05-14T11:19:59
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workunit 297297752:
SCC1_0004129_MyoD1-B_86022_0  MSWin 10      In Progress           2023-05-08T10:49:48  2023-05-14T10:49:48
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workunit 297296752:
SCC1_0004091_MyoD1-A_78537_0  MSWin 10      In Progress           2023-05-08T10:22:45  2023-05-14T10:22:45
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workunit 297295752:
SCC1_0004142_MyoD1-B_88553_0  Linux Ubuntu  In Progress           2023-05-08T09:58:37  2023-05-14T09:58:37
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workunit 297294752:
SCC1_0004092_MyoD1-A_89968_0  Linuxmint     Valid                 2023-05-08T09:30:32  2023-05-08T11:02:36
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workunit 297293752:
SCC1_0004074_MyoD1-A_91377_0  MSWin 10      In Progress           2023-05-08T09:01:18  2023-05-14T09:01:18
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workunit 297292752:
SCC1_0004100_MyoD1-A_76961_0  Linux Ubuntu  In Progress           2023-05-08T08:33:44  2023-05-14T08:33:44
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workunit 297291752:
SCC1_0004095_MyoD1-A_76947_0  Linux GNOME   In Progress           2023-05-08T08:05:41  2023-05-14T08:05:41
SCC1_0004095_MyoD1-A_76947_1 Linux Ubuntu In Progress 2023-05-08T08:05:54 2023-05-14T08:05:54
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workunit 297290752:
SCC1_0004137_MyoD1-B_77443_0  MSWin 10      In Progress           2023-05-08T07:40:16  2023-05-14T07:40:16
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workunit 297289752:
SCC1_0004096_MyoD1-A_85547_0  MSWin 10      Valid                 2023-05-08T07:16:52  2023-05-08T10:17:47


Now compare this to the pace of MCM1:
workunit 302118797
MCM1_0198449_7437_0  Linux openSU  In Progress           2023-05-07T22:05:40  2023-05-13T22:05:40
MCM1_0198449_7437_1 Fedora Linux In Progress 2023-05-07T22:05:46 2023-05-13T22:05:46
workunit 302117797
MCM1_0198445_4035_0  MSWin 10      In Progress           2023-05-07T22:02:35  2023-05-13T22:02:35
MCM1_0198445_4035_1 MSWin 10 In Progress 2023-05-07T22:02:34 2023-05-13T22:02:34
workunit 302116797
MCM1_0198446_6904_0  MSWin Server  In Progress           2023-05-07T21:59:53  2023-05-13T21:59:53
MCM1_0198446_6904_1 MSWin 8.1 In Progress 2023-05-07T21:59:53 2023-05-13T21:59:53
workunit 302115797
MCM1_0198446_6744_0  Darwin        In Progress           2023-05-07T21:56:39  2023-05-13T21:56:39
MCM1_0198446_6744_1 Darwin In Progress 2023-05-07T21:58:34 2023-05-13T21:58:34
workunit 302114797
MCM1_0198446_6636_0  MSWin 10      Valid                 2023-05-07T21:53:29  2023-05-07T23:39:04
MCM1_0198446_6636_1 MSWin 10 Valid 2023-05-07T21:53:26 2023-05-08T05:07:30
workunit 302113797
MCM1_0198427_4250_0  MSWin 8.1     In Progress           2023-05-07T21:50:29  2023-05-13T21:50:29
MCM1_0198427_4250_1 MSWin 10 Pending Validation 2023-05-07T21:50:30 2023-05-08T02:09:56
workunit 302112797
MCM1_0198444_6046_0  Linux Ubuntu  In Progress           2023-05-07T21:47:24  2023-05-13T21:47:24
MCM1_0198444_6046_1 Linux In Progress 2023-05-07T21:47:24 2023-05-13T21:47:24
workunit 302111797
MCM1_0198449_6492_0  MSWin 11      Pending Validation    2023-05-07T21:44:11  2023-05-08T06:57:52
MCM1_0198449_6492_1 MSWin 10 In Progress 2023-05-07T21:44:12 2023-05-13T21:44:12
workunit 302110797
MCM1_0198449_6397_0  MSWin 10      In Progress           2023-05-07T21:40:57  2023-05-13T21:40:57
MCM1_0198449_6397_1 MSWin 10 In Progress 2023-05-07T21:40:56 2023-05-13T21:40:56
workunit 302109797
MCM1_0198449_6223_0  ManjaroLinux  In Progress           2023-05-07T21:37:52  2023-05-13T21:37:52
MCM1_0198449_6223_1 AlmaLinux In Progress 2023-05-07T21:37:54 2023-05-13T21:37:54

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Wasn't there a proportional division between the number of workunits per project, e.g. ARP1 : MCM1 : SCC1 = 1 : 6 : 1 (just an example), set and adjusted by the techs? Maybe that's why we see so few SCC1-tasks flowing at the moment.

I seem to remember Uplinger posting about the proportionality of resource share associated with each project. They would adjust the amount of the grid based on, the size of the project, the availability of work units, the average time a work unit took to get crunched and probably other factors in order to balance the wants of the crunchers with the needs of the researchers. I remember it would get tweaked from time to time.
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Well, the upload errors that plagued us all weekend seem all to be of a new variant. While the last one had a lot of WUs crap out when then ran well (50-60%) beyond the indicated filesize, the latest round all might run to 100%, then pause for a couple of seconds before getting stuffed with a 107 byte error message and need to be retried. Over and over again... crying


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