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Re: Bonic stoped working

give the following command a try:

>nohup ./boinc >& /dev/null &

Some Linux distros are configured to send a SIGHUP to all processes (started by athis particular shell) when the shell gets closed. 'nohup' makes sure boinc ignores this signal. The rest of the line makes shure nothing is written to the screen, since you can run the manager to view all the details. So it should run silent in the background.

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Re: Bonic stopped working

Boinc was originally installed as directed by the install page ... only problem I had was I could not use the 'manager' ... never did get a satisfactory conclusion for that either.

I cannot use the manager.

I deleted everything and started again ... using the same original web page ... this time it seems I got the "latest version" of Boinc ... it was setup exactly as the website tells you ... but I could not close the 'shell' without Boinc stopping as well.

I seem to be the only one with this problem. angry

I am using SuSE 10 EvalDVD ... AMD Barton 2500 1gig ram nVidia 5600/256 vid

Here is a list of comands the "MY" version of Boinc understands ...
mucks@linux:~/BOINC/BOINC> ./boinc -help
Usage: ./boinc [options]
-help show options
-version show version info
-exit_when_idle Get/process/report work, then exit
-show_projects show attached projects
-return_results_immediately contact server when have results
-detach_project <URL> detach from a project
-reset_project <URL> reset (clear) a project
-attach_project <URL> <key> attach to a project
-update_prefs <URL> contact a project to update preferences
-run_cpu_benchmarks run the CPU benchmarks
-check_all_logins for idle detection, check remote logins
too -allow_remote_gui_rpc allow remote GUI RPC connections
-redirectio redirect stdout and stderr to log files
-dir <path> use given dir as BOINC home
-no_gui_rpc don't allow GUI RPC, don't make socket
mucks@linux:~/BOINC/BOINC>

Please note the use of a single "-" and not "--" ... tired

As I have said ... the ONLY way I can get out of the 'shell' is to issue ./boinc -help ... I then get a shell prompt where I then can exit.

It would be nice if someone from WCG could answer my questions ... even if only to say "we don't know" ... hypnotized
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Re: Bonic stopped working


I cannot use the manager.


Could you please be more specific what that means. e.g. does ./boincmgr hang or does it produce any error messages?

Did you try nohup?
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I cannot use the manager.


Could you please be more specific what that means. e.g. does ./boincmgr hang or does it produce any error messages?

Did you try nohup?
Thanks for trying prause and sticking with me on this ...

./boincmgr ... yes it produces an endless stream of 111 error and compleatly freezes my whole system ... I tried it twice, I will NOT try again. Unless someone can assure me that it will work I am not going to experiment ... I need a working system, I don't need Boinc. shock

Did I try nohup
nope!

This system does not get shut down, it runs 24/7 ... Boinc is working, err, I think.

I am a Linux user ... NOT a Linux hacker ... I use Linux because it suits my need and is 'cheap' to implement ... if I have to use the shell I will, but only if I have to ... if I can use YaST, then better for me.

If it causes any trouble I'll just delete it. hugs
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Re: Bonic stopped working

Hi,

Were you running boincmgr on its own ? boincmgr does not start boinc and attempts to connect to boinc on a computer by means of the network. Is the error message you get "init_poll: get_socket_error(): 111" when trying to run boincmgr ?

If it is, I would try running boinc in the background with nohup as prause says:

nohup ./boinc [parameters] >& /dev/null &

and then trying to start boincmgr.

The other thing to check is that there is a localhost definition in your host file.

I would also have a look at screen (man screen) as this allows multiple windows to be used in a text console environment and you can have programs continue to run even when screen itself is detached.
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Hmmm, something is wrong with my English here. confused

I have never run boincmgr ... I have NEVER been able to run boincmgr ... I don't need it, do I? ... I only tried it to see if I could 'see' what was going on ... I don't care that it does not work.

Is the error message you get "init_poll: get_socket_error(): 111" when trying to run boincmgr ?


Yep ... something like that ... but as I said ... the 'shell' closes and my system freezes ... I AM NOT TRYING THAT AGAIN ... I need a working system.

I know nothing about Linux's inner workings nor do I care ... I do know how to set-up and run FaD & F@H


Boinc quit working at 9pm last night, I have no idea why ... I have deleted that folder ... I downloaded a new copy and set it up as per the web site tells you ... as far as I know Boinc is now running.

mucks@linux:~/BOINC/BOINC> ./boinc -show_projects
2005-12-02 16:47:17 [---] Another instance of BOINC is running
mucks@linux:~/BOINC/BOINC>
As I said ... my version will not / does not obey commands. There is only one "instance" running, it is Rosetta_4.20_i686-pc-linux-gnu ... is this correct?

How can I tell if I'm still on the same team?

Sorry if I seem sarcastic ... but I am a little frustrated at the moment that I cannot get this "thing" to give me any information.

Regards
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Re: Bonic stopped working

Hmmm, something is wrong with my English here. confused


Probably better than mine biggrin

I have never run boincmgr ... I have NEVER been able to run boincmgr ... I don't need it, do I? ... I only tried it to see if I could 'see' what was going on ... I don't care that it does not work.


You do not have to run boincmgr at all. It is simply a graphical interface to show what is happening with boinc. If you are happy not running it, then don't smile


Boinc quit working at 9pm last night, I have no idea why ... I have deleted that folder ... I downloaded a new copy and set it up as per the web site tells you ... as far as I know Boinc is now running.

mucks@linux:~/BOINC/BOINC> ./boinc -show_projects
2005-12-02 16:47:17 [---] Another instance of BOINC is running
mucks@linux:~/BOINC/BOINC>


Do a ps -ax|grep boinc and let us know what the output is. It sounds like there could be some "rogue" old copies of boinc/boincmgr still hanging about on the system.

It could also be that there is a lock file left over from the previous attempts. I would also check the permissions on the BOINC directory.

How can I tell if I'm still on the same team?

Sorry if I seem sarcastic ... but I am a little frustrated at the moment that I cannot get this "thing" to give me any information.


Don't worry about it. We are all on the same team and will try to get this sorted out for you. Have a look at this for generic info and this for a script that automatically starts BOINC on SUSE.
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Re: Bonic stopped working

I thank you for your assistance,

As requested, however ...

mucks@linux:~/BOINC/BOINC> ps -ax|grep boinc
Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html
21885 ? S 0:02 ./boinc -min
2585 pts/2 R+ 0:00 grep boinc
mucks@linux:~/BOINC/BOINC>


If you delete the folder there cannot be any "rogue" program of Boinc ... can there?

Don't worry about it. We are all on the same team and will try to get this sorted out for you


HUH! confused

My TEAM is in my sig ... I now have 2 Linux boxes in my device profile ... what happened to the Windows Box? Oh forget that ... it will only confuse me even more.


Let us try it this way ...

To start FaD all you do is; ./loader and it starts ... is there an equivalent command for Boinc?

To see what FaD is doing all you do is; ./server -list ... is there an equivalent command for Boinc?

I do not need a script to start Boinc, a simple command will do as in FaD ... Your second link goes to Altavista Spanish. rolling eyes


This PC stays on 24/7 ... if Boinc screws it up again, Boinc will have to go d oh
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mucks@linux:~/BOINC/BOINC> ps -ax|grep boinc
Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html


I keep forgetting not to put the - symbol now to be POSIX compliant biggrin - next time just use ps ax and you won't get the warning.

21885 ?        S      0:02 ./boinc -min
2585 pts/2 R+ 0:00 grep boinc
mucks@linux:~/BOINC/BOINC>


The first line shows that there is a boinc command running. It was started with the -min (" Put client in the background after starting up") option. It is in sleeping mode (S) - if it was running it would have an R there instead. It is also not attached to a terminal (the ? - if it was attached, you would see something like pts/2 as shown in second line) which may indicate a process still hanging about.

If you delete the folder there cannot be any "rogue" program of Boinc ... can there?


Unix will not remove a binary when a process is still running. I would do the following if you know that there should not be a boinc process still running:

1) kill -HUP 21885 (this assumes that the process ID shown above is still the same - check with "ps ax|grep boinc|grep -v" grep to check). This is a nice way of trying to kill the process, it asks the process to HangUP.
2) Do a ps ax|grep boinc|grep -v grep and see if the process is still running. If it is, then go to the following step otherwise follow step 4
3) kill -9 21885. This is a hard way to kill the process and should work unless you have what is called a zombie process.
4) Follow the instructions at http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/help/viewTopic.do?shortName=bnc, http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/help/viewTopic.do?shortName=boinc and http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread?thread=4483#35037 and see if you can get it working. Let us know at what stage anything fails.

Don't worry about it. We are all on the same team and will try to get this sorted out for you

HUH! confused



All I was meaning (and I agree that I was not too clear smile was that everyone on here is a member of the WCG team and not a specific team. There are a lot of people on these forums who are a lot more knowledgeable than me and I am sure that we will get to a successful conclusion.

... Your second link goes to Altavista Spanish. rolling eyes


The second link actually goes to http://rigo.altervista.org/tools/boinc-suse-1.1.1.tar.gz which is a compressed tar file which has some startup scripts to start boinc when the system gets rebooted. You can always try wget http://rigo.altervista.org/tools/boinc-suse-1.1.1.tar.gz which will copy it down to the directory which you issued the command.

This PC stays on 24/7 ... if Boinc screws it up again, Boinc will have to go d oh


I hope that we can get it going for you. Please stick in there and I am sure we will biggrin
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Hello stares,

Is this any good to you ... ?

mucks@linux:~/BOINC/BOINC> ps ax|grep boinc
21885 ? S 0:09 ./boinc -min
13668 pts/2 R+ 0:00 grep boinc
mucks@linux:~/BOINC/BOINC>


I have no idea what this means ... err, even with your explanation. Sorry.

I can only find one instance of "rosetta" running using KSysGuard ... that is all I ever had.

I do get awarded points, so It still must be attached to "My Grid/My Team" ... as I said, if I look at the "Device Manager" at My Grid I see two Linux devices ... don't know what happened to the Windows device but there are "3 Device Installations" ... I can only see two.

I actually have 1 Windose & 1 Linux box.

mucks@linux:~/BOINC/BOINC> ps ax|grep boinc|grep -v grep
21885 ? S 0:09 ./boinc -min
mucks@linux:~/BOINC/BOINC>



======== Projects ========
1) -----------
name: World Community Grid
master URL: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/
user_name: muckshifter
team_name:
resource share: 100.000000
user_total_credit: 2723.283481
user_expavg_credit: 116.253618
host_total_credit: 307.486086
host_expavg_credit: 53.565249
nrpc_failures: 0
master_fetch_failures: 0
master fetch pending: no
scheduler RPC pending: no
tentative: no
suspended via GUI: no
don't request more work: no
disk usage: 0.000000
GUI URL:
name: Global Statistics
description: Summary statistics for World Community Grid
URL: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/stat/global.html
GUI URL:
name: My Grid
description: Your statistics and settings
URL: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms/viewMyMemberPage.do
GUI URL:
name: Device Profiles
description: Update your device settings
URL: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms/device/viewProfiles.do
GUI URL:
name: Research
description: Learn about the projects hosted at World Community Grid
URL: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/projects_showcase/viewResearch.do
GUI URL:
name: Help
description: Search for help in our help system
URL: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/help/viewHelp.do

======== Applications ========
1) -----------
name: rosetta
Project: World Community Grid

======== Application versions ========
1) -----------
application: rosetta
version: 4.20
project: World Community Grid

======== Workunits ========
1) -----------
name: de855_0A
FP estimate: 12500000000000.000000
FP bound: 719074540800000.000000
memory bound: 120000000.000000
disk bound: 50000000.000000
2) -----------
name: de930_10
FP estimate: 12500000000000.000000
FP bound: 719074540800000.000000
memory bound: 120000000.000000
disk bound: 50000000.000000

======== Results ========
1) -----------
name: de855_0A_2
WU name: de855_0A
project URL: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/
report deadline: Sun Dec 25 10:24:18 2005
ready to report: no
got server ack: no
final CPU time: 0.000000
state: 2
scheduler state: 2
exit_status: 0
signal: 0
suspended via GUI: no
aborted via GUI: no
active_task_state: 1
stderr_out:
app version num: 420
checkpoint CPU time: 33530.887548
current CPU time: 33602.832045
fraction done: 0.944637
VM usage: 0.000000
resident set size: 0.000000
estimated CPU time remaining: 4047.840919
supports graphics: no
2) -----------
name: de930_10_1
WU name: de930_10
project URL: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/
report deadline: Sun Dec 25 19:43:30 2005
ready to report: no
got server ack: no
final CPU time: 0.000000
state: 2
scheduler state: 0
exit_status: 0
signal: 0
suspended via GUI: no
aborted via GUI: no
active_task_state: 0
stderr_out:
app version num: 0
checkpoint CPU time: 0.000000
current CPU time: 0.000000
fraction done: 0.000000
VM usage: 0.000000
resident set size: 0.000000
estimated CPU time remaining: 39511.296925
supports graphics: no
mucks@linux:~/BOINC/BOINC>


Hmmm, no team ???? confused

Sorry ... I'm completely lost here.

Regards
mucks
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