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Re: New version of BOINC 5.4.9

Well,
I downloaded version 5.2.13, and immediately heard about 5.4.9 coming out, so I downloaded it as well. I wonder if they could be interfering with each other.
Also, I'm never sure what the buttons in the Activity dropdown menu mean(on or off?).
Now it's telling me it can't connect to a BOINC client.
Believe me, I'm new to this Linux biz myself.
Thanks for your help so far.


have you attatched to project?
i used old boinc on ubuntu worked fine
i am on a dually amd so default was single core but from ubuntu forums i got info to quickly fix this, i wonder if it is the old ubuntu super user regular user thing, hmm i did not have ( still dont have) an auto start thing setup, i just go to the boinc folder and click boinc manager... hmm keep us informed, there is always a way, btw i switched to suse 10 but that was only cos a found more 64bit stuff there :) cheers ubuntu worked well , actually i still have it installed on a spare hdisk, i could try to set it up again to figure out wot u r doing but i suspect uknow more aobut linux than me cos i know almost nuthin, my suse up date constisted of d/l new boinc, then i forgot how to install stuff doh, i went to boinc forum and copied a scritp ie sh balh blah file and it just took over from where the old prog was,

is this a fresh install or new over old?,
i put the new in exact same place as old so as to not duplicatre stuff but write over old/refresh. i not much help but i can tell u i have new boinc working nicely on linux :)

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Re: New version of BOINC 5.4.9

Update: I had moved the boincmgr icon to the desktop. When I put it back in the folder, it works OK for now. :)

Thanks again.
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Re: New version of BOINC 5.4.9

McGeeWorld, I think I can clarify what's going on. As you know, the core client runs separately to BOINC Manager. BOINC Manager communicates with the core client via RPC, either on localhost (the same computer) or on a different computer on your network. The password is in the file gui_rpc_auth.cfg - BOINC Manager normally picks this up and connects to localhost automatically, after starting the core client if it's not running.
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Re: New version of BOINC 5.4.9

I thought this "RPC" error message in an other thread here a few days ago had something about it but now reading this last post from Didactylos, the penny dropped. I've thoroughly shut down the RPC service and port, i think 135. BOINC only runs on this single machine, no need to interact, other than fetching work and getting results, so suspect it's not relevant to me or? Is this maybe a reason why things freeze up in my GUI?
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Re: New version of BOINC 5.4.9

Yes, if you stop the RPC service, the GUI won't work. BOINC doesn't use port 135, though.
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Re: New version of BOINC 5.4.9

I've never had problems with 5.2.13, but I wanteed to be "good boy" and go for 5.4.9. I decided to use your "speed install" procedure. but even if I believe I did it correctly, the P. C. didn't agree so I will be running 5.2.13 till I get an idea of how to make a change or the P. C. gets the idea that the day has come to change since I have 5.4.9 on the disk. Looks to me as things are still working OK. What is it really I don't get by using 5.2.13.
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Re: New version of BOINC 5.4.9

Looks to me as things are still working OK. What is it really I don't get by using 5.2.13.
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Prestige, Woody!! All the cool kids are doing 5.4.9 this spring.

Seriously...

I don't think think you're missing out on much by using 5.2.13. Mind you "much" is like beauty, it's all in the eye of the beholder.

The 5.4.9 can read the settings from a config file on your disk and those settings will override the settings on the project website. I don't see a big advantage in that but some folks might. It's easier than logging into your account on the website but if you don't fiddle with the settings very often then it's not a big deal.

I like 5.4.9 better because it seems to have fixed a small annoyance I was having. I have BOINC setup to auto start when the system boots (via shortcut in the startup folder). It worked perfect 50% of the time but frequently boincmgr would hang. That was happening on all my devices. Again, it wasn't a big deal because my 'puters run 24/7, it's not like I boot 10 times a day.

On the other hand, 5.4.9 has a bug that really irks me... the return_results_immediately switch doesn't work angry . Now I have results reports needlessly lingering around long after the results have been uploaded. Why? What earthly purpose does that serve? I have heard that this wierd and potentially self-destructive behavior is in keeping with the mysterious clown "2 step process" clown , a doctrine apparently given us by some holy man who wanders in the desert dressed in rags eating locusts and honey. Some say his name was Billy Tucker but I think it was Silly Mucker not talking
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Re: New version of BOINC 5.4.9

Using the new 5.4.9 on both my PowerPC and Intel macs...a small problem. The PowerPC is fine, but the Intel is now requesting apps for the newly-created platform "i686-apple-darwin", which isn't supplied.
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Re: New version of BOINC 5.4.9

Hello Dagorath,
On the other hand, 5.4.9 has a bug that really irks me... the return_results_immediately switch doesn't work

I am a naive newcomer to BOINC, but I have been reading some other boards. On one of them I read a post (which may or may not be correct) which said that the return_results_immediately switch was intentionally disabled last year. If this is correct, then I can only guess why.

Here is my guess (Yes, I am brash and impulsive) - The UD client follows a very simple model. It returns the result, then downloads the next work unit. Apparently BOINC at least allowed something similar as an option. If they changed that, then the only reason can be to reduce the load on the server by splitting up the length of the contact, concentrating on getting the download and only then trying to upload the result. The internet link is set to back off if the server is down or congested (perhaps as a result of being down). The thing to remember is that BOINC was developed to run SETI, which has an enormous number of contributors, much larger than many Denial of Service attacks use. I suspect that SETI has run into many problems of scale that we smaller grids have not encountered yet. My guess is that whenever the server goes down, there is a tremendous crush once it comes back up. This peculiar 2-part transfer that seems so needlessly complex is probably intended to cut this congestion in half.

This is just my guess - - and yes, I would like to handle all the communications in one simple contact too.
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Re: New version of BOINC 5.4.9

paradoxial, it looks like this was an oversight by the techs. Until they add the new platform, all you can do is downgrade. It's a new BOINC feature, and in the long run it will be better, with native x86 support - but it seems to have caught WCG on the hop.

I'm sorry I can't give you any more welcome advice. But downgrading shouldn't take long, and you only need to do it on the Intel.
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