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ErikaT
Former World Community Grid Admin USA Joined: Apr 27, 2009 Post Count: 912 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Hello all,
----------------------------------------We've been working on a new, simple way for you to let your friends know about World Community Grid - and wanted to give you all a 'sneak peek' as we continue to tweak it and before we fully launch it: www.worldcommunitygrid.org/discover.action This should help you get the word out there to your friends & family and earn badges for the new volunteers you bring into World Community Grid! Tell us what you think! ErikaT [Edit 1 times, last edit by ErikaT at Oct 13, 2015 7:44:35 PM] |
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RaymondFO
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Nov 30, 2004 Post Count: 561 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
This is very impressive and very well constructed.
The only constructive item I would point out IMHO is that on each slide it would be better to have a clearer or more defined stimulus for the person to click on the bottom arrow. The need for the individual should be to find out more and that part is not really defined as it does not "wet their appetite" to proceed forward since the "sizzle" is not adequately displayed. Unfortunately, not everyone will just click on the arrow or the circles on the left hand side just because it is there. Also the downward arrow on "Challenge, Solution, and Impact" tab/area is not as well defined in other slides. This may cause someone reading this not to "really notice" or see that is present and not continue with the presentation. Again, just IMHO. |
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Former Member
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Hi Erica,
I nearly commented a couple of days ago when I first saw links to this from the "My Contribution" page containing both the recruiterId and teamId parameters -- as I suggested some time ago. Very many thanks for implementing this! I've already changed my e-mail signature to include this link! I think the concept is excellent and I really hope that it encourages people to start volunteering. My only queries are to do with security and parameter passing. When switching from discover.action to join.action I was surprised not to see the parameters passed on and I couldn't see anything in cookies -- I'm hoping that the information is held on the host and associated with the user session. Similarly, I was surprised that the join.action wasn't under https so as to protect the user information requested. Again, I'm hoping that https is used under the covers and I just can't see it, but it's not very comforting if the user can't see "the padlock". I found that I could use https for the initial link and so this is what I've used in my e-mail footer ... Thanks again! |
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Former Member
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"Accelerate research with no investment of time or money."
One computer that's crunching WCG projects, uses the same amount of electricity as 3 identical computers which are turned on but don't crunch any projects. This means it does cost money to crunch. Yes, you will say WCG wrote, investment, not running cost. But people who read that statement, will read it as overall cost. Is it right to sucker them into projects with the implied promise it wont cost them any money -- especially since these projects are covertly run by corporate employees, who are free to sell the computer generated data to the highest bidders, sometimes years before it's released for free to the public? WCG, maybe you should try an honest and forthcoming sales pitch? |
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knreed
Former World Community Grid Tech Joined: Nov 8, 2004 Post Count: 4504 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
When switching from discover.action to join.action I was surprised not to see the parameters passed on and I couldn't see anything in cookies -- I'm hoping that the information is held on the host and associated with the user session. We are capturing that information using HTML session storage or on the server session. Eventually the only cookies you will see on our site will the session and the security token cookies. Similarly, I was surprised that the join.action wasn't under https so as to protect the user information requested. Again, I'm hoping that https is used under the covers and I just can't see it, but it's not very comforting if the user can't see "the padlock". I found that I could use https for the initial link and so this is what I've used in my e-mail footer ... Yes - you can use either https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org or https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org without issue. Additionally, the API calls made under the covers are all on https. We will take a look at forcing /join.action over to being https at the top level to provide the reassurance that is important. |
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deltavee
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"Accelerate research with no investment of time or money." One computer that's crunching WCG projects, uses the same amount of electricity as 3 identical computers which are turned on but don't crunch any projects. This means it does cost money to crunch. Yes, you will say WCG wrote, investment, not running cost. But people who read that statement, will read it as overall cost. Is it right to sucker them into projects with the implied promise it wont cost them any money -- especially since these projects are covertly run by corporate employees, who are free to sell the computer generated data to the highest bidders, sometimes years before it's released for free to the public? WCG, maybe you should try an honest and forthcoming sales pitch? Ok, how about some constructive criticism. Why don't you write a proposed substitute for the above statement in a way that you think is honest but will still attract prospective crunchers. Maybe WCG could use some help with that. |
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Former Member
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Erika: Looks great! Wondering if in the future it could be extended to include info on the advantages of corporate/educational/etc partners getting involved in promoting WCG? (Or perhaps have a separate one for prospective partners to read)
thx! |
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Former Member
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We will take a look at forcing /join.action over to being https at the top level to provide the reassurance that is important. Great, and thanks for the other reassurances too. |
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twilyth
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"Accelerate research with no investment of time or money." One computer that's crunching WCG projects, uses the same amount of electricity as 3 identical computers which are turned on but don't crunch any projects. This means it does cost money to crunch. Yes, you will say WCG wrote, investment, not running cost. But people who read that statement, will read it as overall cost. Is it right to sucker them into projects with the implied promise it wont cost them any money -- especially since these projects are covertly run by corporate employees, who are free to sell the computer generated data to the highest bidders, sometimes years before it's released for free to the public? WCG, maybe you should try an honest and forthcoming sales pitch? I have to agree with this. People who get excited about WCG and start to participate are going to notice the difference, especially on laptops. They're going to notice how much hotter their machines get, as one example. And since I don't think most laptop users ever clean their fan/hs, the extra heat is very likely going to cause problems over the longer, if not short term. The last thing you want is to have someone have to take their computer in for servicing because of thermal faults only for the technician to tell them that BOINC is what is causing the problem. Not everyone out there is a sophisticated user and not being honest about the heat issue up front is only cause people to feel betrayed when they find out. In terms of how to present this, there's no way to sugar coat it. It's better to be completely honest about the potential issues rather than try to paper them over. edit: oh, and btw, if this is really a serious attempt to bring in new users, this forum software is going to scare people away, especially when you have such a slick presentation. It's like drawing people in with a full page glossy ad only to have them find out that any actual interaction only occurs by fax. edit2: Related to that is the 700k figure that is posted right at the top of the presentation. We all know that this is a lie since we only have maybe 60-70k active users. I'm not going to get all self-righteous about this except to say that anytime you have that alleged number of users, people are going to be expecting a lot more people contributing to the forum. Of course it's an open question as to how many will join and never look at the forum, but I have to believe that most will at least be curious about what kind of community we have here and what they'll find isn't going to jive with that 700k figure. ![]() ![]() [Edit 3 times, last edit by twilyth at Oct 14, 2015 1:29:33 AM] |
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Former Member
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As a follow-on to twilyth's remarks, which I agree with, I don't understand this recruitment endeavor. In addition to the usual forum arguments, I have a concern with the backend systems. Too many times when large numbers of WUs are returned, something locks up, breaks, or we limit the number of WUs of certain projects due to disk space shortages and so on. Last year, during the OET1 launch there were nothing but problems getting work units to the point that some became frustrated and quit. Recently, when OET1 sends quick running WUs and large numbers are returned it seems to cause hangups in the feeder and/or validator. It just looks to me like the backend is put together with "spit and bailing wire" because as Uplinger said "..we have to operate within a budget...". I would be careful about trying to recruit too many new members until you upgrade the back-end. Volume seems to create problems. New members create new volume
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