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crooks_uk
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Re: CPU cooling suggestions

may I suggest that cleaning your heatsink alone may resolve this problem. I run several P4s and some do run over 60 degrees without any problem. The older P4 from my experience always ran a bit hot.
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Re: CPU cooling suggestions

Same as crooks_uk my P4 always hovered summertime around 63/64C in fact. When recently I bought a dual fan, flat body kit, 9 Euro or so, for attachment to a new HD (sitting over the CPU), it dropped the HD temp from 50 to 30ish and the CPU getting extra circulation, lowered to 59/60.

The Power Supply fan not easily gotten to, which co-cools the PC. After disassembly and depolluting, that dropped temp as well according SpeedFan helping the overall PC internal ambience.

Overall noise was reduced as well as the fans do not have to work as hard anymore.
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Re: CPU cooling suggestions

A P4 such as yours is rated up to 72.8 degrees (case temp) before having any problems. I wouldn't worry about it too much. Clean out the heatsink, like everyone else says, and maybe vacuum up the dust building up in the intake vents on your chassis as well.


Mine is only a P4 3.6 ghz with hyperthreading, nothing too fancy.


This actually dissipates more heat than a Q6600 (115 Watts, versus either 105 or 95 Watts for a Q6600, depending on whether you have a B3 or G0 stepping)



The Arctic Freezer Pro 7 is a good heatsink but it struggles to keep a Q6600 Quad cool...


That isn't really true, as it's much better than the Intel stock cooler, which is already "sufficient" for cooling a Q6600.

Ultimately, it depends how cool you want it or if you are overclocking heavily - saying that, I know people that have got a q6600 way beyond 3 GHz with a Arctic Freezer Pro 7. In general though, people are a bit over the top when cooling their processors. A Q6600 is rated to run safely up to 71 degrees C case temp. Still, I guess it's best to be on the safe side, especially if you are running your CPU at 100% at all times.

Interestingly though, overclocking types are more than happy to run their CPUs with way overspec voltages... yet are always obsessed with low temps. These both have similar impacts on the proper functioning and lifetime of the processor, as far as I'm aware.
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Re: CPU cooling suggestions

In general though, people are a bit over the top when cooling their processors.

There is also the issue of noise, I wouldn't be too happy either with 60+ degrees C temps, safe or not.
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Re: CPU cooling suggestions

ive been using a thermaltake hsf for years this one ..

not trying to advertize or what not..
but i have used many different hsf,s and theese seem to perform the best and are fairly quiet....
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ive been using a thermaltake hsf for years this one ..

not trying to advertize or what not..
but i have used many different hsf,s and theese seem to perform the best and are fairly quiet....


Thanks for that information. May I ask what the procedure to install one is? I didn't see that information on the manufacture's page. I'm a lot better with software than I am with hardware. laughing biggrin laughing biggrin

Thanks!

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Re: CPU cooling suggestions

From the pictures, it looks like it needs a back plate for support. If so, you'll have to take out the motherboard to install it. That could be an adventure - especially if you didn't build the machine yourself.
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From the pictures, it looks like it needs a back plate for support. If so, you'll have to take out the motherboard to install it. That could be an adventure - especially if you didn't build the machine yourself.


Deal breaker for me ... when I touch a motherboard ... bad things usually happen. laughing biggrin laughing biggrin

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Re: CPU cooling suggestions

If anyone is curious about the effect of a desk fan on CPU cooling, here's my unscientific research. I pulled the side of my case off and pointed a somewhat powerful desk fan at the Cpu and all surrounding components (pretty much hits the whole interior of my case). I waited until temperatures stablised under FULL WCG load (99% processor usage while running winamp and ms paint). Ambient temperatures are about 65-70 degrees (Boston, Mass at about midnight on the 22nd).

Here's what the original temps looked like:



Then, I turned the fan off and waited for about 10 minutes for temperatures to stabilise again. Here's what the temps look like at this time:



Finally, to control for any other factors, I turned the fan back on again and waited about 5 - 10 minutes and screen shotted the SpeedFan readout again. Here are the results:



My conclusions are as follows:

1. Cases are stupid. Just turn a whacking big fan on your processor and let it deal with it.

2. It is funny to see that even with a big desk fan blowing directly on, my processor, it runs hot. Gotta love this P4 - it basically heats my room!

Am I stupid for taking the side of my case off? OpinionS?
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Am I stupid for taking the side of my case off? OpinionS?

If you can stand the noise of the desk fan cooling your case, I would say go for it. I have a dual processor AMD rig and it just gets too toasty running BOINC at full throttle, so I took the side panel off and placed a 10" box fan up next to it blowing cool air in at a little of an angle to let the warm air come out easier, and it lowered the CPU temps by average of 5-8 degrees celcius. Since it is an older machine I didn't want to dump a lot of money into cooling it, and this solved my problem. The fan is fairly quiet, too.
The pentiums are notorious heat producers, and for that I hate them. I have a nice C2D laptop that runs BOINC 100% CPU load with no cooling issues at all, so Intel is finally doing something about the heat issue.
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