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David Autumns
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p.s. Work was giving away old desktops. I bagged one of them so that's another 5.6Ghz not going into landfill biggrin
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p.s. Work was giving away old desktops. I bagged one of them so that's another 5.6Ghz not going into landfill biggrin

Thats a great move--- smile Yes Summer is here for most of the country but I am working in Bar Harbor Maine at the moment--very comfortable 80s in the day mid 50s at night--i think i saw its kind of cool across the pond
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Hi Gerald so far this month we are trading 0.8C below average

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/cet_info_mean.html

It's been pretty miserable

I've been reading around your Hot Summer

Here's a good link http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2...ion-and-greenhouse-gases/

note: the longer the record the less likely that one will be broken... every temperature is a record on day1

It does look like the dust bowl of the 1930's was when it was really bad Stateside when Cars looked like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcjDozFtMYY
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Genius (exclaimed with tired sarcasm)

http://news.google.com/news/story?pz=1&cf...cVhaapVPheMI5qLaBlHRPD1xM

Just what we need, a reduction in atmospheric CO2 that is enabling greater yields of food for the Planet

See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2qVNK6zFgE

Whichever way you look at it, Intelligent Design or Evolution, what does that YouTube say about the current concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere?

It currently stands at 0.039577% (1 part CO2 to every 2526.72 parts the rest of the atmosphere)

And from that trace CO2 in the atmosphere every living thing is made.

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March was a record warm month in my area. It was not even close to normal weather as temperature were in the 70's when 30's was normal. June and July are now very hot months. It is not the temperature that it gets during the day it is the low it gets at night. The normal low is 58 and it is usually in the high 60's and two nights ago it was 78. The video above does not mention anything about temperature. It just show two plants growing in a controlled environment so I would guess they kept everything equal for both plants except carbon dioxide. It does not work that way and the only thing I need to do is to look out my window at my grass which has not been cut in a month because of lack of rain and the constant high temperature.
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This was a good read on the basic (very basic) science of climate change.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2012/07...ate-change-is-undeniable/
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“Climate Science” in Shambles: Real Scientists Battle UN Agenda http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environmen...ientists-battle-un-agenda
The politicization and corruption of climate science is, perhaps, most clearly evident from the continuing cavalcade of shocking scandals: Climategate, Climate­gate 2.0, Himalayan Glaciergate, Alaskan Glaciergate, Amazongate, Sea Levelgate, Fakegate, Satellitegate, Antarctic Sea Icegate, Hockey Stickgate, Hurricanegate, Surface Weather Stationgate, Russiagate, etc. The Germany-based engineer P. Gosselin has catalogued 129 climate scandals at his website, NoTrickZone.com. Fortunately, each of these transgressions against the integrity of science has caused new circles of scientists to become aware of, and outraged by, the chicanery being employed by the political operatives masquerading as scientists. And the genuine scientists are stepping into the gap in increasing numbers to fight for truth and to expose the climate-change flim-flam artists who are perverting science.
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And yet for all the scandals, the science still remains. The more co2 in the atmosphere, the more heat the atmosphere holds.
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Who are you telling, stwainer? Waste of time and energy!

And the 4th monkey said "I will not hate" (those who can't face the scientific facts, mountains of it). CO2 it BAD for foodcrops... it's good for weeds... kudzu to which the Americans have seen in recent decades spread like pest... it was man imported & planted, in sheer utter folly!

This is kudzu:

My favorite temperature chart based on the data off from the chief temp denier cooks (John Christy / Roy Spencer at UAH).



This is from an all planet encompassing temp measured data set, not the silly sum of 2500 thermometers ground based thermometers. It's 19.04 flat sum is called FALSE representation, in the grossest way possible.

My best curves are the temps plotted according the ENSO oscillation in 38 month moving average and the 138 months moving average following the quasi regular solar cycle (obvious the first 11 years of record was needed to build the average, but in your mind it's easy to see the parallel between the 11 year moving average and the linear regression line of the full data length. It's warming, unrelenting!

And the solar cycle... The sun has been in a waning state since the fifties:



The sun at earth surface varies 0.21 Watts / Meter square over the cycle, yet the measured energy budget has increased by ~3 Watts / Meter square. The result is found back in such references as snow-off days and shrinking Arctic Sea Ice... the closest to 90% of humanities 7 billion.

http://www.earthweek.com/2012/ew120720/ew120720a.html

Enjoy the rest of the summer... it's Scorchio (except where the Fake Skeptics et al ilk frequent). It's a believe thing, devoid of overwhelming fact... pointless to argue, let alone debate.
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Dear Rick

If I look out of my window it couldn't be more green and wet - this is called weather and it's a local thing. Earlier this year they were claiming drought

stwainer

CO2 is a green house gas whose effect is swamped by water vapour. Water vapour that is very stable in our atmosphere as you can't have >100% humidity otherwise it rains. The Clouds created by this effect - condensation - stablise the global temperatures. CO2 currently stands at 0.039577% of our atmosphere and how much of that tiny figure is man made?

Now I will present you with an unbiased, unadjusted temperature series from 2565 NOAA weather stations which updates hourly



shock it shows warming

Yep it shows that the first half of this year was warmer than last year - last year snowmageddon - this year hot spring and warmer Summer - some 1300 of those 2565 Weather stations are USA based, what with it being NOAA.

Do you warmists think that this graph will continue relentlessly upwards?
Do you warmists think that this graph will read 18C by the end of the Century as promised by our Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change?

I know what I think wink


And that's the debate

On the one side the "We're all doomed" crew on the other the Realists who've lived a bit.

I know which camp I belong to

Make it a great day

Dave
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