I too want major daily impact, but I think this is up to definition. When we reduce total research time daily, then I see daily impact. When we do not know if the total research time is reduced, then obviously there is no daily impact.

Regardless, I contribute because I hope for impact.

Hi everybody,
I notice some kind of contradiction in the statements above.
Grid computing is an important tool supporting fundamental research. For this reason, you cannot expect a quick daily impact.
In the most cases, our contribution will impact the middle term or long term future. Even by crunching for new or more efficient drugs, between the computing phase within the grid and the resulting medicinal product, a long time of hard work is necessary.
Computing results must be investigated. Further investigations must be done. Development and production processes must be elaborated. Product investigation must be done. Clinical trials must be completed and finally a market authorisation must be delivered by the regulatory authorities.
All these steps require each months or years of work.
By other projects more focused on environmental aspects, we are contributing on some part of the basic research. Very often, between the identification of some promising technology and processes and the mass production, we have to wait for some years.
Contributing to grid computing projects is especially so important, because we make possible for scientists to investigate in a wider way, and/or in a deeper manner. Without grid computing, numerous research paths would be not investigated.
We are contributing to a - hopefully better - future for our children, not directly for ourselves.
Enjoy,
Yves

SORRY NOT FINISH !!!!!

We can expect a quick daily impact.......

I am not crazy about a major fundamental research because on this way, scientists don(t have a a serious scheme, only computing needs for EXperiences, but no valuable targets...... !!!!

THe daily impact in science can be very quick if all the tools are focused on the final result.... 9 years to send a man on the moon, not more to build an atomic bomb !!! They have started from ZERO to succeed in less than 10 years.

THe human mind is outstanding !!!!!

actually for AIDS they are finishing up on project 37 and about to launch project 38

HPF-2 is also a multiple project in one

each block of research is completed and being worked on by scientists. I honestly have not researched the HPF project as much but the AIDS project(s) are each being reviewed and researched by lots of people.

not to put ANY project short but

1) there is no cure for AIDS
2) there are multiple ways to desalinate and purify water we are just looking for less expensive ways.

every project has its own use and its own impact on the world.

ALSO realize none of theses projects are small enough that they could have been done without the aid of computers. already C4CW has done 23,427 YEARS of computer research. or about 1/6th of AIDS at 147,047 years.

I understand you want to see projects started and finished quickly but do you think we should wait 15-20 years before computers get fast enough to do the AIDS project in about 3 years?..

or looking at BOINC projects out there that are not on WCG...

like Climate Prediction still a long ways to go on that at 127,606,051 YEARS

should we wait 50+ years till we can do Climate prediction in 3 years?

Every project out there has use.... from the prime number programs to the cure for whatever to little green men ... to clean water.

yes Intuition is the best tool for a scientist.

if i come up with a cure for AIDS today.... by myself with NO OTHER research... it will still take 5-10 years of proofs just to prove I am actuality curing AIDS and not killing people. and to prove that cure may take 3+ years of computing time as well. we are not making a recipe to bake a more nutritious bread or such.

we are not taking something that we have found growing wild like blue bread mold and then realizing it cures most infections... (intuition and science and years of proof before it became known as penicillin )

My opinion was I wanted to find a cure for everything before it affected me

I know many people who have died of AIDS.
I have survived round 1 with Thyroid Cancer.
I know how to take some new garbage bags and sea water and make clean drinking water with the sun.

1 out of 3 isnt that bad i guess....

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oh and I know I just opened myself up for lots of return fire
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In fact, it's not really related with the prospective impact of a projet !!!! , but with science management !!!! forget intangible heritage is a huge mistake !!!!

if you study history of science, you will see everything which has been suscessful has started each time with an idea, an intuition, a method. After, all the efforts were focused on the final idea.

Remember NASA space run in the 60's or Manhattan project !!!! scientists started from ZERO !!!!

I have a small computer and i am captain of a small team, so I prefer to use my computer on projects related with my own conception of science. but i am happy with a team member who crunch only HPF !!!!