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Thread: Scheduled Maint. July 18, 14:00 UTC, Extended? |
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TonyEllis
Senior Cruncher Australia Joined: Jul 9, 2008 Post Count: 261 Status: Recently Active Project Badges: 
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----------------------------------------Qty 118 'Server Aborts' so far and still happening and counting up... these were all downloaded earlier today... waste of bandwidth at both ends... I would not be so negative. Server abort is less painful than to have to compute the WUs even if it would not be necessary. On my side, I have only about 90 server aborted WUs for about 2'000 WUs in progress. It is finally negligible (in particular comparing to the daily received spam e-mails). Not being negative - just pointing out a fact... and I am computing some before they are aborted - thankfully still being credited with the points. The problem is the aborts are taking too long and is still not completed... Here's an example of one that is in danger of being computed before it is aborted, and already had one compute turned invalid... Result Name OS type OS version App Version Number Status Sent Time Time Due / Return Time CPU Time / Elapsed Time (hours) Claimed/ Granted BOINC Credit SCC1_ 0000568_ Bct-E_ 31678_ 4-- Linux 3.10.0-514.16.1.el7.x86_64 - In Progress 7/19/17 23:42:29 7/29/17 23:42:29 0.00 0.0 / 0.0 SCC1_ 0000568_ Bct-E_ 31678_ 3-- Linux 2.6.32-642.13.1.v6.x86_64 708 Invalid 7/19/17 23:42:25 7/20/17 16:55:23 0.42 20.4 / 14.5 SCC1_ 0000568_ Bct-E_ 31678_ 2-- Microsoft Windows 7 Professional x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00) 708 Valid 7/17/17 23:43:03 7/18/17 13:56:14 0.33 13.9 / 14.5 SCC1_ 0000568_ Bct-E_ 31678_ 1-- Microsoft Windows 10 Professional x64 Edition, (10.00.10586.00) 708 Valid 7/17/17 23:39:53 7/18/17 06:39:12 0.37 15.0 / 14.5 SCC1_ 0000568_ Bct-E_ 31678_ 0-- Microsoft Windows 7 x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00) 708 Error 7/17/17 23:39:32 7/17/17 23:42:57 0.00 0.0 / 0.0 EDIT: Still processing WUs that are going Invalid or Too Late that were sent out when the WU already valid before the crash, and sent out again by mistake after the system came up. Can only assume that WCG are not aborting these any more and just waiting for us to crunch them, mark 'Too Late' or 'Invalid' and then give us credit and gradually 'flush' them all out that way...
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Byteball_730a2960
Senior Cruncher Joined: Oct 29, 2010 Post Count: 318 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Thank you Yves,
My thoughts exactly. I have enough issues running a couple of computers on windows by myself. I would not like to know how on earth the admins keep the infrastructure of the WCG servers running as well as they do. I personally trust them to do the right thing and their active communication with us when it comes to downtime, indicates (to me) that they try their best. |
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branjo
Master Cruncher Slovakia Joined: Jun 29, 2012 Post Count: 1892 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Jozef J wrote: Branjo on page 2 in this thread you can find my two post about Scheduled Maint. July 18, 14:00 UTC where I discusing about the WCg failure READ whole thread Scheduled Maint. July 18, 14:00 UTC ..  after write some comment here ..  I am sure you are not a right person to decide when I can or can not write a comment.  Crunching@Home since January 13 2000. Shrubbing@Home since January 5 2006  |
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SekeRob
Master Cruncher Joined: Jan 7, 2013 Post Count: 2741 Status: Offline |
Still something not right. After the few invalid [not of my machine's doing], hundreds went through the PVer/PVal wingmanned cycle. Testing if ground is safe, all FAHV arrive with a pre-assigned wingman... 2 copies instead of 1. Device ID 3113135.
----------------------------------------At 48% progress after 11 years [What?], don't think this science needs anyany duplication wastage. Edit: There's the bad odor of a bug, if it is one, in the category of You gotta be kidding me: The post invalid validations from work already returned, hundreds, may not be counting towards re-establishing reliability. It has to be from new work, as after 16 NEW turned valid, latest items come o solo mio again. [Edit 2 times, last edit by SekeRob* at Jul 21, 2017 9:16:15 AM] |
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Former Member
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Why did additional copies get sent on the 20th when a quorum was established on the 18th? The last two copies went invalid. Were they being compared to the Windows versions?
C1_ 0000573_ Bct-E_ 17215_ 4-- Android 3.10.61-10950877 (Android 7.0) 713 Invalid 7/20/17 01:54:31 7/20/17 03:48:46 1.90 21.7 / 18.8 SCC1_ 0000573_ Bct-E_ 17215_ 3-- Android 3.10.72+ (Android 6.0) 713 Invalid 7/20/17 01:54:30 7/20/17 06:18:40 3.49 21.7 / 18.8 SCC1_ 0000573_ Bct-E_ 17215_ 2-- Microsoft Windows Server 2008 "R2" Standard x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00) 708 Valid 7/18/17 04:15:30 7/18/17 14:39:19 1.58 19.9 / 18.8 SCC1_ 0000573_ Bct-E_ 17215_ 1-- Microsoft Windows 7 x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00) 708 Valid 7/18/17 02:03:06 7/18/17 09:26:04 1.03 17.8 / 18.8 SCC1_ 0000573_ Bct-E_ 17215_ 0-- Microsoft Windows 8.1 Enterprise x64 Edition, (06.03.9600.00) 708 Error 7/18/17 02:02:34 7/18/17 04:15:17 0.00 21.7 / 0.0 |
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Jozef J
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pvh513 wrote: Yes, IBM did a great job sponsoring WCG, but let's not loose track of reality here. When WCG was hosting the files in-house it worked more or less flawlessly for years. Since they have moved into the IBM cloud there have been two major melt-downs in short succession, the likes of which I cannot remember. I call that a big step back in reliability... And don't tell me this is a typical IT problem. It is not. We have a big 4 PB file server at my work place and it has been running completely reliably ever since it arrived. You are kidding us, aren't you? If you have a short memory about really bad outages "when WCG was hosting...", try search on this forum. They were not that long time ago. Cheers When branjo attacked me in the post: If you have a short memory about really bad outages "when WCG was hosting...", Then I did prove to that *** branjo that I knew about the outbreak and I also on page two I discussed about it ! He did NOT read whole this thread but attacked the members wcg ... look to his last post just this year.. administrators here at wcg,tolerate bashing from member branjo... You should start doing your work. Unprofessional on this "world science site" .. thank you admin you help me decide where i will use in future time my 224 cores ..   [Edit 3 times, last edit by Jozef J at Jul 22, 2017 7:57:37 PM] |
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Sgt.Joe
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you help me decide where i will use in future time my 224 cores Hopefully you will decide to use them where they will do the most good for mankind, regardless of your perception of any other members on any other site. Cheers
Sgt. Joe
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gb009761
Master Cruncher Scotland Joined: Apr 6, 2005 Post Count: 2986 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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you help me decide where i will use in future time my 224 cores Hopefully you will decide to use them where they will do the most good for mankind, regardless of your perception of any other members on any other site. Cheers  [Edit 1 times, last edit by gb009761 at Jul 22, 2017 8:52:28 PM] |
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ErikaT
Former World Community Grid Admin USA Joined: Apr 27, 2009 Post Count: 912 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Hello all,
A friendly reminder to be please be polite to one another, do not retaliate when you feel you've been attacked (report it instead), and always follow the Forum Guidelines. Thank you for your cooperation with this, ErikaT |
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ErikaT
Former World Community Grid Admin USA Joined: Apr 27, 2009 Post Count: 912 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Hello all,
Kevin has posted some details about World Community Grid's new server environment here. Thank you for your support, ErikaT |
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