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For the Human Proteome Folding Project (HPF) look at http://www.nyu.edu/fas/biology/faculty/bonneau/hpf-results.pdf at Bonneau Lab ( http://www.nyu.edu/fas/biology/faculty/bonneau/ ). It is still being reviewed.

For FightAIDS@Home look at Dr. Olson's Molecular Graphics Lab at http://www.scripps.edu/mb/olson/ The Publications list at http://www.scripps.edu/mb/olson/publications.html does not show any publications for FightAIDS@Home ( http://fightaidsathome.scripps.edu/ ).

For a list of update posts, look in Start Here at http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread?thread=4925#51997

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As far as I know, the first Human Proteome Folding papers are still in peer review. They will be announced here on the forums, and will be listed on the project archive page.

All the HPF papers will be published in open access journals. We don't know the publication dates yet.

The FightAIDS@Home project isn't ready to publish as far as I know. They are still busy crunching numbers here on the grid. Read the latest update from the project scientists for how things are progressing. They are ready to begin lab testing based on the results of Phase 1a.
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Today we have reached 15,800 years of processing of Phase II of the FAAH project (30,200 total years of Phase I & II processing - 14,400 years of Phase I processing). From the time that the 43% completion mark was reached (http://fightaidsathome.scripps.edu/) it was estimated it would take 25,000 years of processing to complete Phase II. So at this time we have completed ~63% of Phase II and we have about 9,200 years of data left to process. At the present rate of processing it should take about three more months to finsh Phase II, which should occur sometime next January.
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Thanks for the Info Mate.
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Maybe they don’t measure completion by finished years but by finished work units. I don’t know, I’m really new to this. Don’t some people have faster computers than others? Also arnt we gaining new members to help with the work units as time goes by? Shouldnth this speed up the project? I don’t know if those are already consiterd in the time till completion equation.
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The estimated finishing time for Phase II of the FAAH project is based on the average of 100 years per day processing. The day when FAAH Phase II reached 43 per cent the number of years that had been processed up to that point was divided by 43 which produced an estimated total processing time of 25,000 years. Keep in mind this is only an estimate based on avaliable data. No information has been provided by the FAAH personnel about any other alternative method of calculating estimated completion times.
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Sir, since FAAH is quite steady in processing time for an individual computer, I'd be inclined to say that the number of validated work units returned to your lab from the total population you're issuing / going to issue for phase II would give an accurate estimate. The CPU time given the different speeds of computers is subject to tremendous bandwidth. The value on global stats is reported in a mix of wall-clock time and CPU time depending on whether UD Agent or BOINC processed a work unit and at what CPU clock speed and the momentary user load put on a 'device'. The grid now processes phase II on global stats per the box below:

If u can say for instance: 27mp / 3q / (12mt / 100 ) = 75% it would likely be a better bet.

mp = million processed work units
mt = millions total net library of work units
q - quorum of 3 to get 1 validated net work unit in library

thx

FightAIDS@Home Project Statistics
Statistics Last Updated: 10/08/2006 06:06:03 (UTC) [0 hour(s) ago]
Totals:
Run Time (y:d:h:m:s) 30,513:268:13:47:38
Points Generated 7,861,698,118
Results Returned 26,956,574
Averages:
Run Time Per Calendar Day (y:d:h:m:s) 94:065:01:00:20
Run Time Per Result (y:d:h:m:s) 0:000:09:54:57
Points Per Hour of Run Time 29.41148
Points Per Calendar Day 24,264,500.36420
Points Per Result 291.64307
Results Per Calendar Day 83,199.30247
Yesterday:
Total Run Time (y:d:h:m:s) 104:223:03:47:01
Points Generated 29,647,834
Results Returned 80,615

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Sir, since FAAH is quite steady in processing time for an individual computer, I'd be inclined to say that the number of validated work units returned to your lab from the total population you're issuing / going to issue for phase II would give an accurate estimate. The CPU time given the different speeds of computers is subject to tremendous bandwidth. The value on global stats is reported in a mix of wall-clock time and CPU time depending on whether UD Agent or BOINC processed a work unit and at what CPU clock speed and the momentary user load put on a 'device'. The grid now processes phase II on global stats per the box below:

If u can say for instance: 27mp / 3q / (12mt / 100 ) = 75% it would likely be a better bet.

mp = million processed work units
mt = millions total net library of work units
q - quorum of 3 to get 1 validated net work unit in library

thx

FightAIDS@Home Project Statistics
Statistics Last Updated: 10/08/2006 06:06:03 (UTC) [0 hour(s) ago]
Totals:
Run Time (y:d:h:m:s) 30,513:268:13:47:38
Points Generated 7,861,698,118
Results Returned 26,956,574
Averages:
Run Time Per Calendar Day (y:d:h:m:s) 94:065:01:00:20
Run Time Per Result (y:d:h:m:s) 0:000:09:54:57
Points Per Hour of Run Time 29.41148
Points Per Calendar Day 24,264,500.36420
Points Per Result 291.64307
Results Per Calendar Day 83,199.30247
Yesterday:
Total Run Time (y:d:h:m:s) 104:223:03:47:01
Points Generated 29,647,834
Results Returned 80,615



The 27 million processed work units includes both Phase I and Phase II, not just Phase II. Also, it has never been stated how many "top hits" from Phase I are being processed in Phase II. This is an unknown thus is an unknown number of work units. Plus, during Phase II the quorum requirements were dropped from 5 to 3. This would speed things up a bit, along with more computers being added daily to the Grid, but by how much is unknown. 75% completion of Phase II at this time is possible, but by simple "dead reckoning" from the last updated per centage completed we are at least 63 per cent complete.
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Its possible that we are at 52% based on the work units returned method. This assumes that for each molecule tested requires the same number of work units. This might actually vary from one molecule to another. Also, quorum requirements during Phase II have changed, so this might alter the percentage completed.

As for the elasped processing time method, this method assumes the same computers make similar efforts processing the work units over time (and future work units take as long to process as previously completed workunits). During Phase II the default CPU utilization dropped from 100% to 60%. So now due to the change what was 1 year of processing will now be 1.67 years. This can skew estimated completion times. Also, I am assuming an average of 100 years of processing per day and so far this is staying relatively consistant. Regardless, 52% completion by the elasped processing time method is possible.

Either method of calculating the estimated % completion of Phase II might be equally valid but both are making assumptions that can produce results that can vary from reality.
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