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Jack007
Master Cruncher CANADA Joined: Feb 25, 2005 Post Count: 1604 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Well I'm grateful, my old laptop can crunch these new aids work units at 30+ hours.
----------------------------------------I will live with my phone only working on OET, still have a year or so to do for 5 year (my target minimum of all projects). Good luck all on crunching.  |
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KLiK
Master Cruncher Croatia Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Post Count: 3108 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Your snotty answer didn't help me understand your original comment, so let's forget that it was ever made. I try to view this kind of project with the following thoughts: - The projects that makeup the WCG, are not here to make the voluntary crunchers happy, give them personal satisfaction or can be tailored to their personal needs. We, the crunchers, are here because we want to help solve some the the worlds illnesses and problems. - Different requirements are needed for different projects, therefore, not all projects behave in the same manner (CEP2 is a good example of this). - Not all projects are for all crunchers, due to their requirements. Most certainly CEP2 is this type of project and possibly FAH2 maybe another one. - I'm sure that the scientists that design these projects, try to make them as accessible as possible, but have to keep in line with the project's objectives. - In essence, WCG is not here for the crunchers.... the crunchers are here for WCG. CJSL Crunching for a brighter tomorrow... I don't concur with u...as ISO 9001 states, last buyer has to have a good product... so it's on scientists to make a product that suits most (if not all) of d crunchers...so that they can have reliable & good data from d product! making some requirements like 24/7 connection & special specifications (I/O), will only make those science avoided by most - if not all crunchers! so it's d science that's avoided...  |
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deltavee
Ace Cruncher Texas Hill Country Joined: Nov 17, 2004 Post Count: 4883 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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so it's on scientists to make a product that suits most (if not all) of d crunchers...so that they can have reliable & good data from d product! making some requirements like 24/7 connection & special specifications (I/O), will only make those science avoided by most - if not all crunchers! so it's d science that's avoided... I'm not saying that FAHB can't be improved but it is the number two project at the moment. Yesterday it had more runtime than either OET1 or CEP2. Most crunchers don't read the forums and don't know what is being discussed here and crunch whatever WCG throws their way. So whatever problems there are with this project will not prevent it from running and being successfully completed. IMHO.
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KLiK
Master Cruncher Croatia Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Post Count: 3108 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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so it's on scientists to make a product that suits most (if not all) of d crunchers...so that they can have reliable & good data from d product! making some requirements like 24/7 connection & special specifications (I/O), will only make those science avoided by most - if not all crunchers! so it's d science that's avoided... I'm not saying that FAHB can't be improved but it is the number two project at the moment. Yesterday it had more runtime than either OET1 or CEP2. Most crunchers don't read the forums and don't know what is being discussed here and crunch whatever WCG throws their way. So whatever problems there are with this project will not prevent it from running and being successfully completed. IMHO. that's not a good way of thinking...or like: "I don't care what my product is, as long as it works 4 me & gets me results!" that would only keep people from WCG...& their research!  |
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cjslman
Master Cruncher Mexico Joined: Nov 23, 2004 Post Count: 2082 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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I don't concur with u...as ISO 9001 states, last buyer has to have a good product... We're not buyers, we're donators, so we really don't have that much choice. We're not voiceless, so we can give feedback and suggestions, but we can't demand that the projects work the way we want them to work. I'm sure that the scientists try to make the projects as easy and accessible as possible, but they are also restricted by the projects needs and requirements. so it's on scientists to make a product that suits most (if not all) of d crunchers...so that they can have reliable & good data from d product! Yes, I agree, but it not always possible to make ALL projects available to ALL crunchers. See my previous comment. making some requirements like 24/7 connection & special specifications (I/O), will only make those science avoided by most - if not all crunchers! so it's d science that's avoided... Yes, that is a true statement. Unfortunately, that is an unwanted side effect from the particularities of some of the projects. CEP2 is a good (or bad) example of this. If CEP2 were like most projects, it would probably be finished by now. I don't crunch CEP2 because I don't have the proper resources (like 24x7) to crunch it, which makes it a pain (where the sun doesn't shine) to crunch. I try to envision this as an adventure, with it's highes and lows, and which deliverables are helping the world be a better place. CJSL Crunching for a brighter future... |
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KLiK
Master Cruncher Croatia Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Post Count: 3108 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I don't concur with u...as ISO 9001 states, last buyer has to have a good product... We're not buyers, we're donators, so we really don't have that much choice. We're not voiceless, so we can give feedback and suggestions, but we can't demand that the projects work the way we want them to work. I'm sure that the scientists try to make the projects as easy and accessible as possible, but they are also restricted by the projects needs and requirements. so it's on scientists to make a product that suits most (if not all) of d crunchers...so that they can have reliable & good data from d product! Yes, I agree, but it not always possible to make ALL projects available to ALL crunchers. See my previous comment. making some requirements like 24/7 connection & special specifications (I/O), will only make those science avoided by most - if not all crunchers! so it's d science that's avoided... Yes, that is a true statement. Unfortunately, that is an unwanted side effect from the particularities of some of the projects. CEP2 is a good (or bad) example of this. If CEP2 were like most projects, it would probably be finished by now. I don't crunch CEP2 because I don't have the proper resources (like 24x7) to crunch it, which makes it a pain (where the sun doesn't shine) to crunch. I try to envision this as an adventure, with it's highes and lows, and which deliverables are helping the world be a better place. CJSL Crunching for a brighter future... doesn't matter...we r they end users, which return data 2 them...so if they want people 2 have "non-intrusive apps, without hick-ups & low requirements" they should have made that app...'cause if they give me some intrusive app (like GPUgrid, asteroids@home or einstein@home on GPUs) - I'm OFF! & if they make an app with low requirements, they can grab more computing power! so it's their loss.. neither do I crunch on CEP2...not only did I use precious time on that project, but also some strange things are happening around that project - that doesn't want to reveal itself...so my decision was to abandon that project & focus my effort elsewhere - where (in my opinion) is mattered more! |
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Former Member
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[quoteso it's on scientists to make a product that suits most (if not all) of d crunchers...so that they can have reliable & good data from d product! making some requirements like 24/7 connection & special specifications (I/O), will only make those science avoided by most - if not all crunchers! so it's d science that's avoided... Please speak for yourself and not for most and especially not for all crunchers. You do not speak for me, in the past, now or even in the future. FAH2 seems to be getting a lot of runtime, so it is hardly being avoided by most if not all crunchers. So it is quite clear the the majority does not share your opinion. |
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Eric_Kaiser
Veteran Cruncher Germany (Hessen) Joined: May 7, 2013 Post Count: 1047 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Please speak for yourself and not for most and especially not for all crunchers. You do not speak for me, in the past, now or even in the future. Yepp.  |
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Eric_Kaiser
Veteran Cruncher Germany (Hessen) Joined: May 7, 2013 Post Count: 1047 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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1. learn how to QUOTE...at least that's d minimum 4 u, if u wanna participate in d community of forum! Once again: Speak for yourself! And if your going to define community participating minimum requirements: In my opinion lazy typing is below such requirements, too. Here are some words for copy & paste usage: 4 = for u = you d = the  And no I'm not talking about typo or related and I'm not a native speaker too. Means I'm making mistakes too. |
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nanoprobe
Master Cruncher Classified Joined: Aug 29, 2008 Post Count: 2998 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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1. learn how to QUOTE...at least that's d minimum 4 u, if u wanna participate in d community of forum! 2. (goes 4 Eric K. also) if u even knew what it was written in d text...& that my reference was of internationally minimum standard of quality called ISO 9001...than you'd understand what my words were saying... but it's seen that u don't know what ISO 9001...& unlike myself have never been educated in it & passed it for a certification to become an auditor! #1. Who died and left you in charge? #2. *yawn* Who cares. maybe we shouldn't have quality standards here on WCG & in IBM?! Maybe you should take your narcissistic nonsense somewhere else.
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