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cargod01
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Apr 25, 2007 Post Count: 508 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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I only have a 15 amp circut to run it all on, so it is not just the money I have to worry about. I worry about having enough margin to hit the microwave on, then have the fridge kick on, without having to run to the breaker before the UPS's run out of juice. Wanna trade? LOL When I moved in here, the entire place was run off 2x30A screw in fuses. Now, I have a 200A main and have tripped it a couple times... when it's -50° we run electric space heaters in a few rooms as well as the wood burner and boiler. Breakers are dual 50A for the range, dual 40A for the hot tub, dual 30A for the dryer, the fridge is on a 20A and at least a dozen 15's... All that to keep warm even since I have replaced several older windows with more energy efficient ones, insulated several rooms and installed a high efficiency boiler. I do all my own work, wiring, plumbing, remodeling... Everyone should work with 4" steam pipe at least once. It gives you new respect for pipe fitters...LOL I see I finally cracked the top 250, now to keep enough machines running to stay there! How many sq ft total? I am only 920, so my needs are less than a house. But the device I use to sink heat into the ground sits at about 52F. For me, the warmer the air gets above 60F, the more it sucks the heat. In your case though, you can use the device to preheat intake air if outside is less than 42F. Since during the winter, the need to vent air drops, reducing the flow rate past the heat exchanger, making the transfer of temp more efficient. Leaving air to be heated about 42F no matter how cold the climate. At that point the air that must be vented can be heat exchanged before exit, coupling the heat back into the intake air without mixing. Congrats on the 250! I hope that concepts like this help keep you in gear. Lets see, 3 levels at 625 sq ft ea=1875 and 2 levels at 800 sq ft=1600. So total is 3475 with lots of windows. This place was originally a rooming house, built in 1895, so there was no insulation at all except where I have pulled the lath/plaster down, insulated and sheetrocked. Since we use a boiler, there is no need for an air intake. The only air exchanged is when people open/close doors. I suppose a heat pump might make some sense, but it would be pretty expensive to dig up the yard to bury enough pipe, deep enough, to make a difference in a place this size. I have replaced about 20% of the windows, the rest are the old style with ropes/weights. I try to keep them covered when it's cold, but kids and dogs seem to be able to tear the plastic sheeting down no matter what.     [Edit 1 times, last edit by cargod01 at Sep 27, 2008 6:00:12 AM] |
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courine
Master Cruncher Capt., Team In2My.Net Cmd. HQ: San Francisco Joined: Apr 26, 2007 Post Count: 1794 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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I only have a 15 amp circut to run it all on, so it is not just the money I have to worry about. I worry about having enough margin to hit the microwave on, then have the fridge kick on, without having to run to the breaker before the UPS's run out of juice. Wanna trade? LOL When I moved in here, the entire place was run off 2x30A screw in fuses. Now, I have a 200A main and have tripped it a couple times... when it's -50° we run electric space heaters in a few rooms as well as the wood burner and boiler. Breakers are dual 50A for the range, dual 40A for the hot tub, dual 30A for the dryer, the fridge is on a 20A and at least a dozen 15's... All that to keep warm even since I have replaced several older windows with more energy efficient ones, insulated several rooms and installed a high efficiency boiler. I do all my own work, wiring, plumbing, remodeling... Everyone should work with 4" steam pipe at least once. It gives you new respect for pipe fitters...LOL I see I finally cracked the top 250, now to keep enough machines running to stay there! How many sq ft total? I am only 920, so my needs are less than a house. But the device I use to sink heat into the ground sits at about 52F. For me, the warmer the air gets above 60F, the more it sucks the heat. In your case though, you can use the device to preheat intake air if outside is less than 42F. Since during the winter, the need to vent air drops, reducing the flow rate past the heat exchanger, making the transfer of temp more efficient. Leaving air to be heated about 42F no matter how cold the climate. At that point the air that must be vented can be heat exchanged before exit, coupling the heat back into the intake air without mixing. Congrats on the 250! I hope that concepts like this help keep you in gear. Lets see, 3 levels at 625 sq ft ea=1875 and 2 levels at 800 sq ft=1600. So total is 3475 with lots of windows. This place was originally a rooming house, built in 1895, so there was no insulation at all except where I have pulled the lath/plaster down, insulated and sheetrocked. Since we use a boiler, there is no need for an air intake. The only air exchanged is when people open/close doors. I suppose a heat pump might make some sense, but it would be pretty expensive to dig up the yard to bury enough pipe, deep enough, to make a difference in a place this size. I have replaced about 20% of the windows, the rest are the old style with ropes/weights. I try to keep them covered when it's cold, but kids and dogs seem to be able to tear the plastic sheeting down no matter what. Let me ask this: Do you use gas for heating the boiler?    |
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cargod01
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Apr 25, 2007 Post Count: 508 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Lets see, 3 levels at 625 sq ft ea=1875 and 2 levels at 800 sq ft=1600. So total is 3475 with lots of windows. This place was originally a rooming house, built in 1895, so there was no insulation at all except where I have pulled the lath/plaster down, insulated and sheetrocked. Since we use a boiler, there is no need for an air intake. The only air exchanged is when people open/close doors. I suppose a heat pump might make some sense, but it would be pretty expensive to dig up the yard to bury enough pipe, deep enough, to make a difference in a place this size. I have replaced about 20% of the windows, the rest are the old style with ropes/weights. I try to keep them covered when it's cold, but kids and dogs seem to be able to tear the plastic sheeting down no matter what. Let me ask this: Do you use gas for heating the boiler? Yes the boiler and hot water are natural gas. When I moved in, the boiler was 3 times the size of this one and very inefficient. It had originally been coal fired and converted to gas. This one doesn't even have a pilot light, it has a spark plug to light it. ---------------------------------------- |
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courine
Master Cruncher Capt., Team In2My.Net Cmd. HQ: San Francisco Joined: Apr 26, 2007 Post Count: 1794 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Woot! I just passed 8 cpu years! And the team did 150 cpu years yesterday!
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courine
Master Cruncher Capt., Team In2My.Net Cmd. HQ: San Francisco Joined: Apr 26, 2007 Post Count: 1794 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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    [Complements of Geo at Team UserFriendly.org] [Edit 1 times, last edit by courine at Sep 29, 2008 4:25:50 AM] |
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cargod01
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Apr 25, 2007 Post Count: 508 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Woot! I just passed 8 cpu years! And the team did 150 cpu years yesterday! GO TEAM!!!! WTG!! Go Team! Than's a LOT of crunching! |
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courine
Master Cruncher Capt., Team In2My.Net Cmd. HQ: San Francisco Joined: Apr 26, 2007 Post Count: 1794 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Let me ask this: Do you use gas for heating the boiler? Yes the boiler and hot water are natural gas. When I moved in, the boiler was 3 times the size of this one and very inefficient. It had originally been coal fired and converted to gas. This one doesn't even have a pilot light, it has a spark plug to light it. Why dont you use gas for cooking? I know in the past, AEK was the thing. But with power being so freaking high, even if I could, I couldn't afford the power. |
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cargod01
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Apr 25, 2007 Post Count: 508 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Let me ask this: Do you use gas for heating the boiler? Yes the boiler and hot water are natural gas. When I moved in, the boiler was 3 times the size of this one and very inefficient. It had originally been coal fired and converted to gas. This one doesn't even have a pilot light, it has a spark plug to light it. Why dont you use gas for cooking? I know in the past, AEK was the thing. But with power being so freaking high, even if I could, I couldn't afford the power. The natural gas prices have gone up by 200% in the last 3 years also, so I doubt that would make much difference. I actually prefer gas for cooking, but my wife and daughters seem to prefer electric. I got a new energy star rated glasstop stove about 18 months ago to replace the 50's vintage one that was here when I bought the place. The old one still worked, I hated to replace it...LOL With 16 people here, we also use a lot of power for the washer/dryer and hot water for showers. I put in a high efficiency 50 gal hot water heater, I keep the water heater on MED not HOT (about 140°) and have a supposed energy efficient dryer (and wash most of the clothes in cold water). In the winter, I route the dryer vent inside and run it through a series of filters to make sure we get the heat without the lint ( it also keeps the humidity nice). First I have a chickenwire screen, then a 1/4" grid then a regular screen and use a nylon stocking as the final filter. I take the contraption outside once a week and blow it out with the air compressor to keep it clean. We never run the dishwasher unless it is FULL, which doesn't take long around here. We also use a lot of paper plates... I have replaced all the incandescent bulbs with compact fluoresent and have energy star fluoresent tubes in most rooms as the cieling light. I just need to come up with a few thousand more $$ (about $250 per window) to replace those old counterweight, single pane windows with better ones. One of my customers owns the local Pella window store, so I get a good deal on them, but they aren't cheap even then. |
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courine
Master Cruncher Capt., Team In2My.Net Cmd. HQ: San Francisco Joined: Apr 26, 2007 Post Count: 1794 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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1 sec, 1 sec, SIX........ TEEN!?!?
----------------------------------------I love the way you kind of threw that in so matter-of-factly. I see, its you and her, 10 kids, 3 pets and an accountant. Well not to handle the books, but to get the names straight. I mean did you confuse the word "family" and "army" somewhere along the way.   16? Wow, congrats! [Edit 1 times, last edit by courine at Sep 30, 2008 10:32:52 PM] |
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cargod01
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Apr 25, 2007 Post Count: 508 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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1 sec, 1 sec, SIX........ TEEN!?!? I love the way you kind of threw that in so matter-of-factly. I see, its you and her, 10 kids, 3 pets and an accountant. Well not to handle the books, but to get the names straight. I mean did you confuse the word "family" and "army" somewhere along the way. 16? Wow, congrats! LOL, well...myself, wife, daughter & SO + 2 kids, son, foster daughter+husband+4 kids, younger daughter, another foster daughter & her kid. Then there are all the grandkids friends that like to hang out here... 6 dogs, 4 cats, a few wild mice (til the cats get em...)...14 computers, 8 TVs, washer, dryer, freezer, 26CF fridge |
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