| Index | Recent Threads | Unanswered Threads | Who's Active | Guidelines | Search |
 |
World Community Grid Forums
Category: Support
Forum: Suggestions / Feedback
Thread: This is for bbover and the IBM guys .. |
| No member browsing this thread |
|
Thread Status: Active Total posts in this thread: 201
|
|
| Author |
|
|
Sekerob
Ace Cruncher Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Post Count: 20043 Status: Offline |
skgiven, plz see anandtech loaded chart in link provided above... 180 v 193.3 watts (860 v Q6600). For the 860 v 920 it's 23 watts., loaded.
----------------------------------------
WCG
Please help to make the Forums an enjoyable experience for All! |
||
|
|
sk..
Master Cruncher http://s17.rimg.info/ccb5d62bd3e856cc0d1df9b0ee2f7f6a.gif Joined: Mar 22, 2007 Post Count: 2324 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
|
I saw it and its wrong! The typical i7-860 load is 160W, not 180W!
There is little point compairing an i7-860 to a Q6600! Load Power Consumption of an i7-860 |
||
|
|
Hypernova
Master Cruncher Audaces Fortuna Juvat ! Vaud - Switzerland Joined: Dec 16, 2008 Post Count: 1908 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
|
Sek your energy cost is very high at 34 eurocent. You mentioned 0.34 eurocent but I suppose you meant 0.34 Euro or 34 eurocent per kw/hr right.
----------------------------------------In my place that costs me from 07 o'clock to 21 o'clock 16.67 eurocent per kw/hr. From 21 to 07 o'clock it costs 9.58 eurocent. It is also 9.58 on Saturday and Sunday. For machines that crunch 24/7 it means an average cost of 12.53 eurocent per kw/hr over the week or the year. Your cost is Triple mine. WoW. In France I can tell you it is about the same or even lower. No idea in the US how much it is. Regarding the debate on CPU consumption, what is important to me is to measure power consumption at the wall socket WSM of each device when crunching. I will do that this week end and tell you what comes out as I have three types of CPU to compare, 920,950,975. But as an example a device that runs at 180 watts WSM will use up 4'320 watt/hr WSM in a day or 4.3 kw/hr and cost at my place 0.54 Euro. With ten devices we are at 5.4 Euros/day. Over a year that is say round 2'000 Euros. A lot of cash for a very good cause. For you Sek I am afraid it is 6'000 Euros.  [Edit 1 times, last edit by Hypernova at Feb 10, 2010 2:59:31 PM] |
||
|
|
Hypernova
Master Cruncher Audaces Fortuna Juvat ! Vaud - Switzerland Joined: Dec 16, 2008 Post Count: 1908 Status: Offline Project Badges:
|
Let's put it this way: If you have $5000.00-$6000.00 to spend thats burning a whole in your pocket then yes, you can build yourself a top dualie then extrapolate that number to $12,000.00-$14,000.00 and you can build yourself a nice quad socket desktop. Movieman sorry but this is unfortunately out of range yet. I will stick with a good twin socket when the new mainstream 6 cores with HT, will come out and I hope with some models in a reasonable price ratio. I would not put more then say 4'000 $ for the complete desktop ready to crunch. This is with no display and not more then a 100$ graphic card as WCG does not use it. Wait and see. |
||
|
|
Movieman
Veteran Cruncher Joined: Sep 9, 2006 Post Count: 1042 Status: Offline |
Something else I want to show you guys.
----------------------------------------If you want to see impressive output look at the #3 machine on this page: http://boincstats.com/stats/host_stats.php?pr...active=&st=0&or=8 That's a single socket machine run by one of the guys on the XS WCG team; Fallwind. Incredible output from a single socket machine. Now here's a guy that knows what he's doing!  There are two single socket machines in the top 50 on that list and both belong to him..   [Edit 2 times, last edit by Movieman at Feb 11, 2010 9:42:29 AM] |
||
|
|
Hypernova
Master Cruncher Audaces Fortuna Juvat ! Vaud - Switzerland Joined: Dec 16, 2008 Post Count: 1908 Status: Offline Project Badges:
|
Movieman, thank's for this enlightening remark.
----------------------------------------As a single socket he produces daily nearly 50'000 WCG points. If my nine CPU's were all at the same rate I should generate on a good day 450'000 points whereas I am at best at half that number with 250'000. It shows that I have some more margin of progress before I max out my hardware. I registered in Boinc Stats a few days ago and started to use this tool. Still a lot of questions. So sorry if I bother you asking a few questions. How do you know it is a single socket. The third machine on the page is noted as 12 CPU. Is it 1 CPU with 12 physical cores, or with 6 physical and 12 virtual with HT, or 2 CPU with 6 physical cores etc... If you have a link to a place where BAM and BOINC are well explained and mainly how to have all my CPU registered so that I can see the performance of each of my processors, that would be fantastic. Thanks. |
||
|
|
Sekerob
Ace Cruncher Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Post Count: 20043 Status: Offline |
Devices as run at WCG have the details hidden, but if you uncheck that box in the My Profile section, you can show the world at BOINCStats. According your stats page, yours are hidden and you're not member of any team... do you speak Italian too, even if Alto Adige dialect? ;>)
----------------------------------------http://boincstats.com/stats/user_graph.php?pr=wcg&id=550035
WCG
----------------------------------------Please help to make the Forums an enjoyable experience for All! [Edit 1 times, last edit by Sekerob at Feb 11, 2010 10:05:04 AM] |
||
|
|
Hypernova
Master Cruncher Audaces Fortuna Juvat ! Vaud - Switzerland Joined: Dec 16, 2008 Post Count: 1908 Status: Offline Project Badges:
|
Sek. Thank's for the info. Forget the Boincstats then and I'll keep things as they are. By the way I speak Italian and a few other languages, in total five excellent and one let's say enough to survive on the long term.
----------------------------------------My italian is not dialect, just the Dante Alighieri's italian: "La lingua del popolo". |
||
|
|
sk..
Master Cruncher http://s17.rimg.info/ccb5d62bd3e856cc0d1df9b0ee2f7f6a.gif Joined: Mar 22, 2007 Post Count: 2324 Status: Offline Project Badges:
|
 [Edit 2 times, last edit by skgiven at Apr 23, 2010 11:01:11 PM] |
||
|
|
Movieman
Veteran Cruncher Joined: Sep 9, 2006 Post Count: 1042 Status: Offline |
About the CPU# on the above thread, 12(24) - Cores (Threads) - Usually Intel, 8(32) - Sockets (Cores) - Usually AMD But not always! Some are harder to follow; an X5570 or i7 sometimes shows 1(8) and sometimes 4(8). There seems to be a mix of both cores and sockets being reported, depending on the Operating system used. Sometimes just the thread or core count is shown - not an easy read. Fallwind getting 7K Boinc Pts per day on a 920. Wow! To put that into perspective, it is 1500-2000 more than I was getting when I had my 920 at 3.78GHz! I'm now only using 7 threads (3.7K/day) and its more modestly clocked @3.255GHz, but there is a good reason: Two GT240s crunching GPUGrid tasks (17K/day), and it uses the same amount of power as it did with a basic GPU (7200GS) with the core at 3.78GHz. It's not a 920, I said "single socket"...... Look closer.. |
||
|
|
|