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Thread: Research Log: Updates from the Harvard Team |
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Hello cjmc45321988,
Just to be clear here, you talk about publishing the papers in "For-Profit" journals. But the actual results, the different materials and such. Those go into the Public Domain, where they can never be patented. There is no way to stop anyone, anywhere from using these results for an end product for absolutely free. Is this correct? I started reading your post thinking that I would answer Correct! However, you may go slightly too far. We are indeed producing a table of information that will be in the public domain, similar to a table of physical properties in the CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics or to a table of logarithms. However, people can use this table while doing more research and patent what they develop. If challenged in court, they must show additional work and inspiration. Just pointing to our public domain table will invalidate the patent application. This may be what you asked, but I was a bit uncertain when I read your question. The trouble is that patent law seems full of anomalies to me. Which is why I Am Not A Lawyer is sometimes IANAL on the internet.  Lawrence |
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Albeit this is an "academic"- and/or "scientific research"-oriented board, I find the question re patenting to be interesting, particularly in light of how hard Big Oil is moving into natural gas through the purchase of gas-bearing shale formations all over the United States - on top of which there was something on the order of a 400% increase in "merger and acquisition" (a.k.a. monopolization) activity in the U.S. in the midstream (gas pipelines and gas gathering and process facilities) segment of the natural gas industry in 2010.
I.e., it would be nice to know that 'Big Energy' (since they work to obsolete the term 'Big Oil') cannot take the results of our community investment in electricity and computational time and patent and so monopolize them - and so enable themselves to continue levying the uncontrollable and so often extortionate private tax they call profit upon everybody who is dependent in any way upon energy - and so keep right on manipulating global politics instead of fading away like other examples of human savagery such as cannibalism. Beyond the fact that their capabilities have historically lead to both global economic deprivation and regional wars, I'm truly not fond of "taxation without representation" when those taxes are used to benefit so few. Then there is the fact that the cascade effects that result from using those private taxes to...leverage...the morality and ethics of legislatures here and abroad are...tremendous. |
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Johannes gives group meeting today and presents an update on the current status of the Clean Energy Project to the Aspuru-Guzik Group.
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Speedy51
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Jabba starts to fill up with data – we have to start thinking about building Jabba2! How much data dose Jabba currently hold? Going by daily results returned 16,608 would I be right in saying that if each task is 23MB. Each day roughly 373.03 GB are added to Jabba?  [Edit 1 times, last edit by Speedy51 at Jul 11, 2011 5:47:28 AM] |
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Hi Speedy51,
----------------------------------------Jabba (the permanent storage array) has a capacity of 90TB (78TB after RAID), Miss Piggy (the fast server array) has 48TB (38TB), and we have some 20TB of temp storage on other hardware. It is somewhat hard to estimate the actual volume of data because we keep redundant copies for backup, and there is additional data from various stages of result processing. You can image that it adds up  .Best wishes Your Harvard CEP team [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Jul 11, 2011 2:33:55 PM] |
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I see that there are some CEP beta's being introduced into the data stream? Cool, maybe I can get closer to by bronze badge in beta testing. Any heads up what the beta is for, or just 'stuff' we probably don't need to know or care about :D
Is there any chance of CEP doing any CUDA apps? Thanks Aaron |
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Aaron, it's not anything specific to CEP2 at the moment, rather a general system peak load test of the new download servers in a quite different configuration. For detail see beta thread, starting from this post by knreed: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/...31437_lastpage,yes#331618
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Speedy51
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Thanks cleanenergy for your response.
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johncmacalister2010@gmail.com
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Thanks cleanenergy for your response. Thanks for keeping us informed. John   crunching, crunching, crunching. AMD Ryzen 5 2600 6-core Processor with Windows 11 64 Pro. AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor with Windows 11 64 Pro (part time) |
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